Japan Disaster! Hit By 9.0 Earthquake, Huge Tsunami, Nukes Meltdown

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  1. midgardsun

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    Radiation levels soar in Japan sea water

    Radiation levels in sea water near Japan's damaged Fukushima nuclear plant have reached more than 3,000 times the legal limit, officials said, as efforts continue to bring the country's nuclear crisis under control.
    Japan's nuclear safety agency said on Wednesday that water near the crippled plant's No. 1 reactor contained radioactive iodine at 3,355 times the legal limit.
    Officials said they did not know what caused the radiation level to rise.
    "The figures are rising further. We need to find out as quickly as possible the causes and to stop them from rising any higher," Hidehiko Nishiyama, the agency's deputy director-general, told a news conference.
    But he also played down the danger, saying residents had been evacuated from the area and no fishing was taking place.
    http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia-pacific/2011/03/20113304449336317.html

     
  3. 7he4uthor

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    radiant -->:sunny:


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    The moment nuclear plant chief WEPT as Japanese finally admit that radiation leak is serious enough to kill people

    By David Derbyshire

    Last updated at 3:54 PM on 19th March 2011

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    http://www.dailymail...ill-people.html



    Read more: http://www.dailymail...l#ixzz1I3RfYp93





    Radiation is streaming into the atmosphere from the used uranium rods at reactor number four, after a 45ft-deep storage pool designed to keep them stable boiled dry in a fire.



    And some of the radioactive material could reach Britain within a fortnight, according to experts.

    However they say it will not be dangerous when it reaches our shores while low levels of radiation have already hit Southern California.




    Japan may have lost race to save nuclear reactor
    Fukushima meltdown fears rise after radioactive core melts through vessel

    http://www.guardian....nuclear-reactor



    Radiation levels soar in Japan sea water



    Radiation levels in sea water near Japan's damaged Fukushima nuclear plant have reached more than 3,000 times the legal limit, officials said, as efforts continue to bring the country's nuclear crisis under control.

    Japan's nuclear safety agency said on Wednesday that water near the crippled plant's No. 1 reactor contained radioactive iodine at 3,355 times the legal limit.

    Officials said they did not know what caused the radiation level to rise.

    "The figures are rising further. We need to find out as quickly as possible the causes and to stop them from rising any higher," Hidehiko Nishiyama, the agency's deputy director-general, told a news conference.

    But he also played down the danger, saying residents had been evacuated from the area and no fishing was taking place.

    http://english.aljaz...4449336317.html



    march came in like a lion this year ...

    march 1st at 5am Venus sat in the mouth of the crescent moon forming the sign of Islam in the sky ...



    this whilst Egypt was rising up with the Islamic brotherhood

    Libya and neighbors to follow ...

    now Syria



    and a potentially global new-clear crisis of yet unreported proportions ...



    yes march [mars] marched right on in like a lion and is still marching on ...



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    Japan still hasn’t admitted that the core melted down on 11 Mar 2011
     
  4. 7he4uthor

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  5. 7he4uthor

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    US stores spent nuclear fuel rods at 4 times pool capacity
    Various sources. 27 March 2011 15:15:30


    Spent fuel pool at the top of a nuclear reactor

    In a recent interview with The Real News Network, Robert Alvarez, a nuclear policy specialist since 1975, reports that spent nuclear fuel in the United States comprises the largest concentration of radioactivity on the planet: 71,000 metric tons. Worse, since the YuccaMountain waste repository has been scrapped due to its proximity to active faults (see last image), the US Nuclear Regulatory Commission has allowed reactor operators to store four times more waste in the spent fuel pools than they’re designed to handle.

    Each Fukushima spent fuel pool holds about 100 metric tons, he says, while each US pool holds from 500-700 metric tons. A single pool fire would release catastrophic amounts of radioactivity, rendering 17-22,000 square miles of area uninhabitable. That’s about the size of New Hampshire and Vermont – from one pool fire.


    In a March 25th interview, physician and nuclear activist Dr Helen Caldicott explains that “there’s far more radiation in each of the cooling pools than there is in each reactor itself…. Now the very short-lived isotopes have decayed away to nothing. But the long-lived ones, the very dangerous ones, Cesium, Strontium, Uranium, Plutonium, Americium, Curium, Neptunium, I mean really dangerous ones, the long-lived ones – that’s what the fuel pools hold.”

    The Cherenkov Effect

    The theory of relativity states that no particle can travel at the speed of light in a vacuum. However, light travels at lower speeds in dense media, like water. A particle travelling in water must have a speed less than the speed of light in a vacuum, but it is possible for it to move faster than the speed of light in water. If the particle is charged, it will emit radiation (light).

    Out of further curiosity, I continued following the Neutrino experiments link(as above) then to the next link after reading "One example of a neutrino detector is the Super-Kamionkande under construction in Japan."
    http://www.windows2universe.org/sun/Solar_interior/Nuclear_Reactions/Neutrinos/sup_kamionkande.html

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    Radiation sickness

    Although radiation sickness is serious and often fatal, it's rare. Since the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan, during World War II, most cases of radiation sickness have happened after nuclear industrial accidents, such as the 1986 nuclear reactor accident at a power station in Chernobyl, Ukraine.
    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/radiation-sickness/DS00432



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    0h my !
    the [govt] ''' officials '''' is who the technicians, physicists, experts, UN commission, American Oversight, the Nuclear Industry, and everybody ''in the know'' from the irradiated techies in the hot room to NASA/NSA with satellite monitoring reports to ...
    anyone who believes this '''''''' we don’t know '''''' line may not be cognitively functional.

    they know, they are certainly lying on that point !
    when lava comes out of the mouth of a volcano we know that pressure caused it.
    when rad levels rise around a reactor, how many possible causes do you think there are ?

    ''''''''''' officially speaking ?


    you see theoretically speaking ... if techies in the hot room knew ahead of time they were going to be crispy critters, and Americans on the ships that went to help, and Russians who went to help ... would government trust them to not jump ship ?

    theoretically speaking if a dangerous radiation cloud was headed across the globe
    to poison the northern hemisphere would government trust people to not fill planes ships and trains heading to south america where the nazis retired ?
    http://www.stormsurfing.com/cgi/display_alt.cgi?a=npac_250
     
  6. willedwill

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    Really; I think now , that the scientists (today: Wednesday the 30th of March) don't know what they're doing. They took a probability gamble (not about money, but maybe that's the kind they're used to), and thought the nuclear radiation could be saved from going into the world outside, the oceans surrounding Japan and the winds of and onto the shore. Now they have to pack up and start to measure controlled radiation and radioactive fallout concentrations passed to predictable places. :biker:
     
  7. Justin_Hale

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    I was listening to the radio this morning and heard this:

    ^ (from the Sharp in the morning show -What's in Bob Bennett's Mustache http://kfyi.com/pages/mustache.html)

    I went to the website just now and found the above story just like I heard it, but with no link specified, so I googled: 'epa raising bar on radiaton safe levels'. This was what I found (close):

    EPA to Help Mainstream Media Obscure The Truth About Radiation Exposure to Americans http://www.realnewsreporter.com/?p=1851



    Is this for real???

    *sorry if this was posted before, but I didn't have time to click on all of the links posted recently and read them.
     
  8. Lostthoughts

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    The allowable amount of radiation in european community food has been raised from 600 Bq/Kg to 1250 Bq/Kg.
     
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    march 31 2011

    here is wild speculation ...
    1am right now watching a tv news report saying that rad levels in the ocean have risen to 4500 times 'legal' level.

    and that NOBODY KNOWS HOW THE RADS ARE GETTING INTO THE SEA

    suddenly i remembered that japan has a history of dumping nuclear waste in the sea ... it occured to me that POSSIBLY in this crisis they are dumping the hot rods [flushing them] into the sea to save their asses.


    radiant --->:sunny:
     
  12. MayQueen~420~

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    Wait...aren't the Japanese suppose to be the smart one's?
     
  13. midgardsun

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    I dont think so... neither man nor machine can get close to those rods for the moment they are in a highly contaminated and damaged area.

    safety problems:
    http://www.asahi.com/english/TKY201103300162.html
     
  14. 7he4uthor

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    ok ...

    i looked for evidence to back my memory that japan used to frequently dump into the sea ... closest i got was this;
    Marine Life Faces Threat From Runoff

    Over the eons, elements like uranium have washed into it from rivers. More recently, humans have dumped radioactive materials into the marine environment, including dozens of nuclear warheads and reactors that are slowly decaying, as well as many thousands of barrels of radioactive waste.
    In October 1993, a Russian ship dumped hundreds of tons of low-level nuclear waste into the Sea of Japan, touching off a diplomatic row between Tokyo and Moscow.
    Oceanographers have monitored the areas around the dumps for dangerous levels of radioactivity but typically find little of consequence because of the sea’s powers of dilution. Even so, in 1994 most countries gave up the longstanding practice of dumping radioactive materials into the sea.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/29/world/asia/29safety.html


    more
    http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&...=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=9e696ad4e847d462

    :sunny:

    still i think dumping it all in the sea might be a plan ...
     
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    EDIT;
    i get easily distracted ...
    grate ful for the following photos ...................
     
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    informative thread has gone downhill quick
     
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    I've started a new thread about the Fukushima 50 and I'm keeping that one updated with new info as it comes in...
     
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    They had no idea they were going to get "nuked" , so how does that make them "unintelligent" ?

    They did not surrender until the second one was dropped . Not Because they were unintelligent , rather they were still under the samurai code which would not allow defeat or surrender .

    The Japanese were brutal to allied forces p.o.w. , because in their culture to surrender was seen as beyond weak and less than human . You are correct many choose to die rather be taken prisoner by allied forces .

    I can remember reading about some Japanese still fighting and thinking the war was going on on remote islands, long after it had officially ended. The samurai were a magnificent warrior race . Loyal , fought to the death . We had one hell of a time fighting them . The only way to stop continued massive loss of life for the allies and stop them , was to drop fat man and little boy . The problem was and is they were civilian targets .

    In any event the samurai code ended in Japan right after ww2 , today they are as westernized as we are . Those old ways died with ww2 and the military rule of Japan by the allies . Their culture today , is not the same as their culture in ww2.
     
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    SEE my edit above
    the member is right ... i went off track

    pls direct me to the new info thread:sunny:
    I need to remain more object ... grateful for this reminder
    i dont want to participate in hype psyche

    i remain active searching for info not widely reported and perhaps a bit of speculative analysis
    nothing today.

    cya
     

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