Japan Disaster! Hit By 9.0 Earthquake, Huge Tsunami, Nukes Meltdown

Discussion in 'Latest Hip News Stories' started by skip, Mar 11, 2011.

  1. McLeodGanja

    McLeodGanja Banned

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    Maybe direction is also at play here, due to the nature of the explosions and the design of the reactors maybe they are radiating more upwards than sideways?
     
  2. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Well it's going up at first since the heat coming from the reactors rises. But then it moves with the air currents. They've already registered higher than normal levels of radiation in Tokyo, but not dangerous. They say radiation is heading to Tokyo for the next six hours... I hear several embassies are moving out of Tokyo to Osaka. 39 million people live in Tokyo and its surroundings.

    CNN is saying the fire in reactor 4 is out now, and radiation levels are dropping there... the first good news today.

    Three recent aftershocks measure 6.0 or higher today. They are still expecting a major aftershock up to 8.0...
     
  3. FireflyInTheDark

    FireflyInTheDark Sell-out with a Heart of Gold

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    Point taken...

    My thoughts exactly. They're very superstitious over there. They bless their cars, computers, everything, before it even comes off the assembly line sometimes...
     
  4. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    The mayor of Tokyo has said that this is divine retribution for Japan's sins in WWII...
     
  5. FireflyInTheDark

    FireflyInTheDark Sell-out with a Heart of Gold

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    :( That's so sad.
     
  6. stinkfoot

    stinkfoot truth

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    The delay suggests that God has a retribution backlog- akin to a busy deli... pick a number and wait your turn.... now serving number 8.9 (9.0)....
     
  7. skip

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    Radiation in Tokyo is now being measured at 22 times normal. Imagine, that is what, 220 miles from the reactors? So the closer you get to them, the higher the radiation. What is it in the cities and town around the plant? It must be ungodly high in Fukushima...

    Now if those radioactive clouds start to precipitate with rain, it's going to land and contaminate everything it lands on, esp. the soil.

    They are not telling the full truth even now...

    I guess once the residents start to glow, they will know...
     
  8. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    The thought police are telling us we shouldn't be joking about this. Gilbert Godfried got fired from his Aflac commercials due to jokes he made about the quake/tsunami.

    Doesn't matter to the thought police that joking helps people deal with their fears...
     
  9. SpacemanSpiff

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    I had typed a post in this thread yesterday about how the rescuers in their funny looking matching outfits walking with sticks reminded me of documentary I watched concerning the Bataan death march...but I never submitted it.
     
  10. stinkfoot

    stinkfoot truth

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    Exactly...

    Pity and sympathy are very valuable things- and to maintain their value we should be careful in how we use them- lest the gesture become a cheap means of self aggrandizing (hey, look, I'm more sensitive than thou!) and often encourage one caught in a mess to remain there in order to sop up all the crocodile tears offered in "charity". If this isn't destined to become an absolute catastrophe then I hope that not only the Japanese, but also the rest of the world learn a valuable lesson about many things- including clean and safe energy sources, infrastructure along fault lines and perhaps most important:

    Don't believe the bullshit propaganda pumped out by corporate entities who have am monetary stake that supplants environmental and health concerns- we've collectively allowed these special interests to warp our sense of right and wrong and our innate abilities to sniff out bullshit. This has had the effect of taking me completely off the proverbial fence as far as nuclear power being a viable alternative to coal and petroleum- as my growing anger with the corporate entities related to those sectors can erode my own (presumably) good judgment.

    I hope that Japan can move past this and be a better country as a result. Wisdom is the cash crop from the seeds of stupidity... and it's harvest time along the Pacific rim.
     
  11. Turtle55

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    didn't they bump it up and said it was 9.0?
     
  12. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    An excellent post! This is exactly what happens, the spinmeisters come out and say things like "there's no more danger than cuddling your wife in bed, or a brazil nut"... and such shit.

    Sorry but the Hip Forums will never be a place for corporate propaganda and hype. Those who post such crap are subject to immediate banning.

    We will allow independent third-party analysis, from those who have nothing to gain from the information they spread. But corporate "scientists" who view $$$ as more important than truth have no credibility around here. They were the ones who were given free reign under the Bush regime to lie to America, while those scientists who had the real facts were silenced.

    The people suffer when corporate propaganda is presented as facts.
     
  13. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Here are the scientific facts, devoid of stupid comparisons that are meaningless.

    * Exposure to 100 mSv a year is the lowest level at which any increase in cancer risk is clearly evident. A cumulative 1,000 mSv (1 sievert) would probably cause a fatal cancer many years later in five out of every 100 persons exposed to it.
    * There is documented evidence associating an accumulated dose of 90 mSv from two or three CT scans with an increased risk of cancer. The evidence is reasonably convincing for adults and very convincing for children.
    * Large doses of radiation or acute radiation exposure destroys the central nervous system, red and white blood cells, which compromises the immune system, leaving the victim unable to fight off infections.
    For example, a single one sievert (1,000 mSv) dose causes radiation sickness such as nausea, vomiting, hemorrhaging, but not death. A single dose of 5 sieverts would kill about half of those exposed to it within a month.
    * Exposure to 350 mSv was the criterion for relocating people after the Chernobyl accident, according to the World Nuclear Association.
    *"Very acute radiation, like that which happened in Chernobyl and to the Japanese workers at the nuclear power station, is unlikely for the population," said Lam Ching-wan, a chemical pathologist at the university of Hong Kong.

    Exposure to 1 sievert of radiation can cause hemorrhaging, 4 sieverts can cause death within two months, and 2,000 sieverts can cause loss of consciousness within minutes and death within hours, according to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. It doesn't appear that this crisis will reach these rates (we hope).
     
  14. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Rapper fifty-cents also had a few unkind words in the aftermath of the devastating Japan earthquake and tsunami, and wrote "Look this is very serious people I had to evacuate all my hoes from LA, Hawaii and Japan. I had to do it - LOL

    Fortunately the thought police can’t touch 50 cents; I mean after all for every word of criticism and rebuke he’ll sell another ten thousand CD’s [​IMG]

    Hotwater
     
  15. antithesis

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    I just read that a volcano is erupting in Japan as well. It never rains but it pours is cliche, but so true.
     
  16. skip

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    And Tokyo was hit by a fresh 6.2 earthquake, possibly not an aftershock, but a new quake.
     
  17. willedwill

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    But being worried about people less is not the Japanese way. Being densely populated it makes the shift of wind preferable northeastward away from land. Is that fare to the facts of what scientists can do with the radiation coming at them? Maybe they can steer it into the appropriate soil.

    As it stands the helpless winds are still blowing out to sea.

    www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/15/us-japan-quake-tokyo-idUSTRE72E0ZR20110315

    What are those scientists going to fault for us now? Are we at fault? no, no, they are at fault for this themselves.
     
  18. skip

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    What would happen if a terrorist brings down a 747 into one of these reactors, now that the containment has been weakened?
     
  19. skip

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    Expert on CNN states that reactor #3, which had the bigger explosion, now has a pool of spent nuclear fuel that is exposed to the air! If the water in that pool evaporates, it could start a fire, sending yet more radiation into the environment.
     
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