I've outgrown you all

Yeah vegan straight edge is pretty hardcore though man. They have about as much pit power as a blow up sex doll, except the sex doll is actually amusing

 

vegan straight edge?

 

Moving on is hard for others to accept sometimes. I hope those you love treat ya right.

 

Uh huh... no drugs, drink, wanton/kinky sex or animal products. Most admirable really, I'm fairly straight edge, never saw any reason not to be.
Not vegan though, but working on it.

Darklunacy: In the words of Bob Dylan, don't critcise what you can't understand.
Who do you think you are passing judgement on the people here without really knowing them?
You haven't even read and understood the whole thread (because your interpretation seems way out of whack with mine)
Not that it's any of your business what we do, but.... how could you possibly know what a diffrence and good things we have done today?
When you are no longer young and annoying, then I shall take your moral advice.

 

thanks lunacy , your support is most helpful



I knew I should've changed the title of this thread, cuz I dont feel like I've out done/grown anything, I just mean to say I feel like I've matured.

seriously though, thanks dark lunacy

p.s I dont mind if my hair gets cut at any moment right now, or if it doesnt for years... I just think that I'll prolly have them when pic time rolls 'round

 

I'm sorry, brother, but what's wrong with veganism and straight edgism? What's wrong with being responsible about what you do to others and yourself? Or maybe you find it funny because you think I am one of those party kids who made their dreadlocks and wear baggy HC pants and pierce their faces to be "cool"? If you want to know, I don't like hardcore, I don't have dreadlocks, I have no piercings and I don't even know any vegans or straight edgists and I do what I do not because of these labels, I actually discovered them after I started doing what they meant, so no "labeling yourself" thing, k? I just use them to get the ideas across easier.
Dude, all the love, but you have to be responsible for your acts!
Peace, brother, cheer up and try to love them out there!

 

As long as you wear it well...

 

Phew... Ok.. Catchin fodder from the shit cannon again. First of all
Sage: I'm sure being one year older has given you much more life insight than me (In no way sarcastic about that) but honestly, I have tried it. And as I've always said, "Fuck what other people say, I live my life by me." Seriouslly... Quoteing others is a fallback when you cant think of anything to say yourself. But I have tried it, is my point. I understand it, I just dont get the benifits. When I stopped eating meat I got really tired all the time. No energy to do shit. And I find straight edge to just be too boring for my taste. I enjoy having sex, I do it responsiblly. I enjoy getting comfortablly stoned, and I do it responsiblly. The entire straight edge phillosophy is a little dumb to me. But whatever. Read the begining of the thread and notice many of the first few posts are just calling her an overgeneralizing bitch (paraphrased) and I just dont dig that. And by the way, who the fuck are "we"? Are you refering to the entire hip forum community, because if you are, I don't recall you being ellected public affairs official. If your refering to the vegans and straight edge kids, its my bussiness because I'm on the opposite spectrum. I know you arent making a difference because you cant make a difference. Its facts. You have to climb the ladder before you can make any decission. Don't believe me? Has pro-war/anti-protest rallies gotten you to change your views on Iraq or hippies/protesters etc etc? No? Know why? Cause protests dont do a god damn thing. Now if you want to kindly shut the fuck up it would be much apreciated.
Osama: I just like to poke fun and stereotype you guys because most the ones I meet are against my choice and they come up bitching at me about what I eat or me poisioning their air with my cancer stick. I know your not all like that, I got friends of both groups, its just fun. Grain of salt man. Someone says strait edge to me I think of the punk SE cause thats where it was born. If your otherwise, whatever. I really dont care what you do, its a personal thing. Do what you do for yourself and people critisizing you wont bother you.

We_all_Shine_on: Yeah... Go for it dude. I relate

 

I am not trying to be vegan, I am not trying to be sXe, I'm just trying to be the best perosn I can.
You know, you have to strive to become your own ideal self!

 

you really bore me.

seriously, whats the fun in that?
hahahahhahahaha

you REALLY bore me.

 

We_all_shine_on, I think it important to grow and change.I have always been a hippy at heart and I always will be.many things about me have changed but that is one thing that hasnt.I just wanted to say...though it seems that you have learned a lesson from people jumping on you in the forum....when you move on you shouldn't insult the people who havent.Just as you have grown and decided who you are and what you will be,others have decided to be what you thought was a hippy.You cant be taken seriously if you wont take others seriously.Not that I think you dont,but I think you contradicted yourself in some of the posts and I know what that is like,I understand and I support you in your growth.
To all of the people making fun of being straight edge....I have friends who are edge(I am not!) and I think it is a positive thing.Even if some do it to fit in, I think it is better to not drink and do drugs to fit in that to get drunk and high to fit in.Everyone cant handle it.... it does wear and tear on the body if done excessively... etc. Why cant you just respect peoples choices? Love people for who they are..not who you think thay should be. get over yourselves and stop being so negative!

 

hey now, what's with the 40 year old bashing?! i'm a much nicer person than i ever was as a teenager, mostly cuz i'm brave enough to let everyone be themselves and not try to change/judge them. just imagine if everyone was the same, how boring that would be.

hahahaha!!! yup, that about sizes it up for me too! i really don't leave it up to my wardrobe to make my statement, i use my voice and actions for that. anyone can put on a costume any day, to fit in any place.

 

There's no point dragging this out, so this shall be my last post in this particular debate.
I could go for a great detailed response, but can't really be bothered.

For clarification 'we' reffers to those posting in the thread, as you initialy made generalised judgements (well that's how I read it).
I never proffess to have any major contribution/responsiblity with regards the forum. Wouldn't want it anyway.

Ultimatly my philosophy is live and let live, as long as no harm is done (to themselves or others) and there is equal respectful...
but I have serious issues with the judgements of others, particually against myself and/or from someone who doesn't know me (and you don't, because Sage is in effect a persona, you don't even know my name)
So on balance I don't care that much. The only judgements I bow to are those of myself and whoever's 'upstairs'.

Oh just caught your last comment... not sure why I wasted my time carefully choosing words and being civil, but then I wouldn't want to offend you, or being insulting.

Have a nice day

PS Ultimatly, no I will not shut up.

 

I'm too stoned to catch up with all the posts since the start of this topic...
I just wanted to say as an "old hippie"

I give you permission as a true member of the hippy society, to wear a business suit, to be a normal "green" person in your neighbourhood, to do what you think is best at the time your help is needed the most, and to be the very best that you can be.

Why do I give you this permission..?
Because you are a true member of the "Hippy" community already...
It takes one to know one....

and one instinctively knows whaen one has met another kindred spirit....


Love you too

strawpuppy

 

He thanks you for your "permission".

 

actually, youre actually too young to be an "old hippie" but hey whatever....


and we_all_shine_on, im 17 and i would be a junior but im fitting my last two years of high school into 3 and a half months this year, so ill be all graduated sometime in january sometime.

 

a 17 year old tellin a 47 year old he's not an old hippie? ya'll crack me up with this old hippie, young hippie, i'm a hippie, you're a hippie, wouldn't you like to be a hippie too stuff all the time. nobody's in charge of deciding what's hippy, is there? AAAHHHH!!!! ANARCHISIM!!! FREE THOUGHT!!!!! FREE WILL!!!!! or is that free willy?

 

damn, blackie, i don't even wanna hear about it, it's gonna be a long wait till my willy's free

 

He's 47, meaning he wouldve been 12 in 1969....but like I said, whatever. I really dont care, just pointing out a fact because I had nothing better to do when i posted that.