Ive been trying to work this out

Instead of proving God otherwise, why don't they prove he or she, period?

Or is it that life or something will never allow that to happen nor allow you to know, as there wouldn't be a point to it then?

I'm afraid this isn't an XBox.

 

I beleive there is a point to life, but its not dictated by a higher power


1) I have given the subject thoughy
2) Fuck all to do with it, ive just never heard an argument that cant be sufficiently knocked back

 

Btw, of course the DaVinci code isn't really true, but sometimes I do believe that life is just that secretive and mysterious-- that or people are just overthinking it as they have struggle to live with themselves and others, too, while trying to figure it out, but there's always going to be more than meets the eye. The universe is expanding and you know it just as well as I.

 

so what if Browns theory was true? not one thing in the bible to make it sacreligeous or blaspemous.

 

Considered that too... but I still think a story is a story until proven otherwise, though it's all a matter of your depth perception in comparison to Dan Brown and the Bible.

Reckon it would be justafiable to say the same about The Odyssey.

 

You know im trying to avoid attacking you..............meh cant be fucked its a lsot cause

 

The sources he has are from Gospels that weren't included in the Bible but are actually considered more valid than the rest of the Bible........But thats not saying much

 

Wouldn't you really only be attacking yourself?

 

I disagree with his statements saying atheists are sad.........HEY......thats almost a personal attack.....on..someone.......and saying they obviously havnt thought about it enough......and saying they just want to be different

To deny that something or someone at least planted the seeds of life is probably due to one of the following:"

thats implying the thought that its more likely it happened

 

Most I've met just seem, a little more than usual, often inconsiderate to others with an opposition, or in some shape or form, are self-destructive...

I have nothing against mere opinion, but in the end, we're left with opinions and dust.

 

just dust

 

Instead of saying that, you could've offered a counterarguement to what I said.

Would you mind sharing what you think this point is?
(not for the sake of arguing it, I just always like to hear what people have to say about this)

 

1. I know a lot of atheists that are happy so thats a lie that theya re sad people
2. I regul;arly discuss philosophy with atheists and i find them a lot more knowledgable than most theists
3. Most of the atheists i know conform to society in every other way, other than religion so i cant iamgine that conformity is factor
4. I personally, nor anyone for the last 100 years has seen miracles that can be verified......to trust heresay from thousands of years ago is blatently irresponsible........so give me a few examples........and you're saying that someone who DOESNT believe in magic is ignorant

 

Miracles are amazing things happening.
Miracles... the perfection of humans, for example. Obviously we are very flawed creatures, but in my opinion we are perfect because of that. We can think, evolve, survive, teach, learn... so many things. We are animals yet we seem to be the only animals on Earth that can do all of those things and so much more. I'd imagine that if you are an atheist who believes everything was an accident that humans would seem to be even more of a miracle... because then how in the heck did we get to be like we are, and then how in the heck did the world and nature become how they are...

Like I sad, atheists seem to be mostly closed-minded and refuse to even want to believe because they don't want to conform to Christianity (which in this case would be the nonacknowledgment of miracles, which you seem to believe is only a Christian/religious thing).

Everrything is here for us.. air, water, food, resources. If thats not a miracle than I don't know what is.

 

Everything is here for us.......more like we are here because of them. Of course eveything is going to be perfect, otherwise we wouldnt have survived......

How are we perfect because we are flawed......doesnt seem to make much sense....

Basically what you are saying is there must be God because the world is simply in existence......it doesnt ahve much logic behind it.

 

First of all, miracles are not magic.

 

Sometimes, I do have wonder if we aren't terrestrial creatures, in our own.

If you've seen Mission To Mars, you know what I mean.

 

Not just because its simply in existence, but because everything is how it is. If the world were just "here" it'd be like Mercury (though I've read about and watched documentaries on how there may be life in Mercury's clouds... but whatever)... or Pluto. "Simply in existence" geez, I bet there's nothing that impresses you

To view our and the planet's evolution as mere coincidence must make a person feel pretty sad down inside. You should at least acknowledge that the fact that things are how they are is at the least pretty amazing.

 

Well, out planet was like that when it was forming. You can wake up tomorrow morning and find out that the world is round.

And if there's life that can survive in hydrothermal vents, that could be a sign that we really don't know as much as we think and it's already apparant that none of us really know what we're looking at, as it lies.

I just think it's sad to ignore hundreds of years of evolved humanistic values.

 

Its not out of the question... most people seem to toss that out as pure garbage, but I think such an event(s) could explain the various jumps that occur in the fossil record.