It's WAR in the Middle East!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by skip, Dec 27, 2008.

  1. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    No that will make them more willing to strap on bombs and climb onto Israeli busses.
     
  2. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Why not blame Israel and the US with their blind support of Israel for creating this climate, by walling them in, and creating economic embargos?

    Not everyone fears death, those that can not be warm. fed, or have their basic needs met, think first of an alternative to their suffering. Sometimes death is more welcome then continued suffering. Didn't the Jews prove that at Masada?

    Didn't the religious zealots at Jonestown prove that?
     
  3. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    In recent years, several organizations have donated small video cameras to the population of Gaza.

    It's only a matter of time before these hit the internet and the news wire. I'm betting the Israeli soldiers have orders to find the owners of these cameras.

    I'm also betting some tapes still get through.




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  4. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I hope so, that would be real democracy.
     
  5. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    How can we send them cameras and batteries?
     
  6. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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  7. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    Paid for the the US taxpayer.

    Think about that when you look at your paycheck next time.

    A few pennies of your hard earned money went to Israel.

    So they can blow children into small pieces.


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  8. navajas

    navajas Member

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    500 palestinians dead (all civilians)
    3000 palestinians wounded
    100 palestininan children dead (videos everywhere but non on US and European medias )
    houses, SCHOOLS, mosques destroyed
    no electricity for 8 days
    not enough medicine
    not enough hospitals or ambulances
    not enough food

    10 israelis dead (army members)

    watch the videos of dozens of palestinian child corpses everywhere, mothers crying, people wounded bleeding everywhere, limbs lost, girls with guts hanging out their stomach, bodies carried in pickups cuz there r no ambulances.



    planes, tanks, missiles falling from the sky dnt knw the difference between a innocent civilians and hamas...
     
  9. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    They have plenty of those, what they are in need of is cameramen,ready?
     
  10. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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  11. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    What would the Israelis have the Palestinians do sew patches on their sleeves and enter cattle cars on a railway. Turn in their neighbors for a weak promise that perhaps their family might be spared?
     
  12. jaycola

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    SirRuben is correct. They have to show Hamas the senselessness of their mission.

    Read the Hamas Charter. http://www.mideastweb.org/hamas.htm

    Below are a few highlights.

    "Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it."

    "The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. "

    "There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors."

    "After Palestine, the Zionists aspire to expand from the Nile to the Euphrates. When they will have digested the region they overtook, they will aspire to further expansion, and so on. Their plan is embodied in the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion", and their present conduct is the best proof of what we are saying."

    How can you make peace with people whose implicit goal is your destruction and state emphatically that they will never make peace?
    How do you negotiate with people who are willing to send their own children to their deaths?

    Israel has been heavy handed I agree in their reaction. More deaths of innocents have occurred than any sensible, caring person could easily want. The problem is that the Hamas leadership will accept nothing less than the complete removal of any and all parts of a Jewish homeland within the middle east. As long as Hamas in in control of Gaza, there will be no peace in the in Israel or Palestine.
     
  13. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Yes, and Hamas is an intelligence op run by the Mossad, but nobody wants to hear about that let alone look at the evidence.

    Hamas plays right into the agenda of Israel by creating the pretext for the collective obliteration of the Palestinian people.
     
  14. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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  15. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    Wonder why nobody takes your Prison Planet Evidence serious?? Hint, they're full of shit 99.97% of the time.

    Gaza has a population of 1.5 million+ Palestinians
    Hamas has an estimated 20,000 in Gaza.

    So in your eyes, Israel has only managed to kill 70 Palestinians(their enemy)

    And in the process sacrificed 460 of their own?

    At that ratio, well, lets just say they don't add up.
     
  16. navajas

    navajas Member

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    so u think 460 of the 500 killed are hamas members? DAMN! since when children and mothers are considered hamas members?
     
  17. BraveSirRubin

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    Not if we kill them before they get there.

    The Palestinians had decent living conditions after Israel withdrew from Gaza. There were no blockades, and they were even allowed to work... in Israel!

    Then suicide bombings and rocket firing happened, which resulted in embargoes. They kind of brought it upon themselves by electing the goddamn Hamas as their government.

    It is sad that many people are without water and electricity now. Maybe now they will truly understand how little the Hamas cares about them.
     
  18. BraveSirRubin

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    What would you suggest as an insignia? A picture of the prophet of the arm? That could be somewhat humorous.
     
  19. BraveSirRubin

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    The Hamas was potentially, possible, not very likely, partially funded by the Mossad at the beginning of its existence in order to create a counter-balance between the fanatic fractions.

    That's as far as it goes.
     
  20. Hiptastic

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    I always like the way you make a claim and then provide numerous links, none of which back up what you say.

    Hamas was not created or run by Mossad, that is a total bullshit lie. Its pathetic actually.

    The Israeli military allowed Hamas to form and grow because they thought it would be a counterweight to Fatah. That doesn't make it a Mossad controlled operation, which is why you have nothing to back that up. It means Israel tried to play off one group against another.

    Also, it was not formed as a violent resistance group. In the beginning, it was more of a religious and social organisation. It was also formed as a branch of the Muslim Brotherhood - it wasn't created out of thin air with no history.

    Please explain Rat - why do you lie so much? Why do you make claims you can't back up, knowing you will get called out for it?
     
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