i think you should go up to ~35 mg then. if 30 is drastically different than 25...35 seems like the next logical step. ~45 mg should be great too though. those higher doses give me a headache, but 30 mg did not.
i've been told that 2c-b the magic doesn't really start until 75-100...but this is coming from friends who would call half a sheet of god LSD a pleasant evening i need to lace up my space boots and do 50-60 at some point soon. because 40 was FANTASTIC, and i didn't notice any added negative effects compared to 15, 18, 20, 23, 25, 27 and 30-31mg doses. on 40mg, 'i' personally was periodically dissolving completely into music. in a lot of ways, i found my last 30mg trip a bit more intense than my 40mg trip [i think it was actually 31mg, and 100mg of a 60/40 mdma/mda mixture at about T+6 hours, which didn't do much aside for promoting cuddling] ...40mg was one of the best trips of my life, but on 30mg i felt much stronger depersonalization, and the setting was sort of weird. high nasal dose 2c-i is FUCKING RIDICULOUS. it STILL lacked the magic of 2c-b, but the visuals were spectacular...sort of like moderate LSD visuals, but without the same divinity. you should try doing a proper b-flip...perhaps stagger the doses and start with a slightly higher dose of mdma.. about an hour into that, follow up with 25 or so mg of 2c-b. all of it coming on at once has always been a little odd for me, and i've had much better experience when there is about an hour between doses. i vote for a hippy flip [mushrooms+mdma]! OR BETTER YET, 4-aco-dmt+mdma! the GI problems i get from p. cubs, mixed with the weird metabolic stimulation/diuretic effect i get from mdma sound a bit overwhelming.
So you would say high dose (35mgs +) 2ci is worth exploring? I'd go with the 200mgs for the both of you and top it off with ~50 mgs of caffiene for a little extra pep in your step
^ I might chime in and say that I only found much value in 2C-I AT very high doses (like 40mg or so). It offers a nice stimulant feel at lower doses, but I didn't enter the 'zone' so to speak, or 'break-through' until 30-40mg, or, once at 20mg insufflated (which hurt like snorting dried, ground-up habanero peppers would). It is not the best psychedelic obviously, but I still find potential in it!
I have enjoyed 2ci thoroughly on pretty much every trip I've had with it. The trip itself is right there with 2cb for me but the side effects I find much less desirable. Good info, I may check out a higher dose.
Down for hippy flip or almost hippy flip (4aco). Maybe sometime for the hour apart b flip... Wasn't super in love with that combo though at new years. Willing to try it staggered though. Damn it, I really need a psychedelic taxi service. All my friends are either busy doing responsible people things or are unable to drive.
My preferred dosage? I've only taken 2ci at 15-22 mgs, 20 mgs is a good spot. 2cb my preferred dosage is 25 mgs with others, 30 mgs by myself. 2ce I've kind of been all over the place with it dosage wise and Various Roa's, 25 mgs is good for me.
Yah I think that's a good spot, I did 27 mgs with a full dose of mdma (200 mgs) and that was intense for me but not overwhelming.
so i'm leaving tomorrow for that cruise (i don't get on the ship til friday at 5:00 PM) and somehow 27.5 mg 2cb and a microdot slipped into my luggage... i think i'll take the 2cb June 1st or 2nd. i'll be going to Icy Straight Point Alaska on the 1st (forests and stuff to get lost in) and the 2nd is a day at sea (on the boat the whole day, so i'm sure i can get some alone time). then maybe i'll take the dot about a week later when we stop in Victoria, BC Canada. should be an awesome trip, regardless of the psychedelics :sunny: also, i just sent in payment for two tickets to this festival https://www.sterlingstage.com/Festival_Ameribeat.html me and my fiance are gonna go, and i'm sure i'l be tripping on something. and i've already made plans with my brother to go camping and drop L two weekends after the festival summer time indeed!!
I once had 15 mg on top of a strong speed and it was such a mind warping experience. It's not the same feeling at all than with MDMA, the body rush is a lot more intense. I never made a combo like that since, especially while taking strong doses of both substances.
i've only done LSD this summer, if june 1st even counts as summer. and i took 27.5 mg 2cb a few days before that, with VERY minimal effects. plans are set for festival + LSD and camping + LSD (or maybe mescaline) the rest of my list is a big maybe i guess