It's a sad fucking day

Why isn't the patients' opinions enough? How is it not good enough for a person to have a medical ailment, use marijuana, and have then say "its worked!"

It's worked for so many. Case in point- here in NY medical isn't even legal. But Roswell (a big cancer organization) prescribed my next door neighbor marijuana because she has a malignant, inoperable brain tumor, along with MS. They've given her anything you can think of to ease the massive headaches she gets. They've given her morphine, phentynal patches, oxycodone, ect. and nothing works but pot.

It drives me nuts that there are so many similar cases (like Angel Reich) and those people's testimonies aren't good enough.

So the US can put out arthritis drugs that have KILLED people, but they outlaw pot which you can never OD on. It doesn't make sense to me!

 

You know I love you brother but I'm not sure about that being the only thing. How do you explain legal tobacco and alcohol?

I think that it takes a govt. that's of the people. Things can be changed. It just takes the right deal to be made, and the people that are in power to look good while they're making it, so that they can stay in power. I may be somewhat cynical, that comes with age.

Yeah, and some irrefutable scientific evidence supporting it's benefits would help.

 

I'd like to see the evidence that marijuana is NOT beneficial to those patients who use it!

 

Sure, there are many cases where patients feel that pot is the only effective means of treatment, but like I said, marijuana is a drug and will never be treated differently than any other drug - it will have to pass FDA approval. I'm not trying to be negative, but I've done enough research to know that until there is overwhelming scientific evidence supporting the benefits of marijuana - all the marijuana rallys and public support won't do a darn thing.

 

theres no point to explain..no one will listen...
but you are saying exactly what I was trying to say (but im dumb so mine didnt sound as informative as yours)

 

So then another thing the public can do is urge the gov't. to do more research. I mean, if this drug is helping cancer and MS patients, then a lot more work needs to be done!! Creating funds for MJ research could help.

The FDA is scary anyway. They let all those arthritis drugs on the market and those killed people! This drug has to fatality risk at all.

and DHS, it's not being negative, IMO, it's bringing all the facts to the table. I like it. Give me more to think about!

 

There is scientific evidence that suggests a couple of drinks a day is good for the heart. The alcohol industry will always have that to fall back on and keep it legal.

As for cigarettes, unfortunately there is an industry in place with a lot of political sway ($$$) that keeps them legal. Personally, I think you'll find cigarettes to be outlawed before you'll find marijuana becoming legal. You look at the taxes going up and up and up on cigarettes. The reason for that is not to generate revenue for the goverment, but as a detrement against young people starting smoking. I wouldn't be suprised at all to see cigarettes cost $10 a pack or more five years from now and the number of smokers in this country dramatically reduced. I say this as a smoker. I think they should be outlawed, I wish I had never started - I've tried to quit several times, hopefully next time I make a go at it, I'll be succesful. I'm sure if they cost $10 a pack, I'd be less inclined to smoke.

 

Have you seen "Grass" headymoe?

 

I think that the benefits and drawbacks to pot use are apparent and everyone can see that it can be used or abused just like any other drug. The problem is all of the MADD mothers and the SADD students and all of the other highly visible groups that are trying to make tighter controls over the legal drugs. Those lobby groups are larger and louder than ours...I believe.


Shit with all of the pill heads these days getting oxy's and what have you from Mexico, it's going to be a tough argument why laws regulating another highly abused recreational drug should be relaxed.

 

I'm not advocating anything that has to do with the legalization of pot altogether. I don't ever expect to be able to get stoned out on my front porch.

This is all about the medical aspects. It's so hard for me to grasp on to the fact that they have such a cold shoulder to something that has proven to ease pain in our country's most sick.

ok, so one of the big reasons tobacco is legal is because of the money. So that means they care more about thier wallet size than the health of thier people! AH! That scares me. I don't want to be run by a government more wrapped up in dollar signs than it's people. AND... there are so many more negative effects from cigs than pot, there's almost too many to count! What's the difference? They are both plants and drugs.

Why is scientific testing and a propsed taxation bill so impossible?

Maybe things will never change, but somebody has to keep speaking up for those who benefit from marijuana.

 

yes, I have. I like the facts, but I hate the way it was put together. It seems immature and from an obvoius stoner's perspective.

They need to take that info and make a real documentary that is, well.. a little more grown up. No politician is going to watch that and take it seriously.

 

So we need to be louder and stronger. If we see our weak points, then we must work on them!!

Like I said, this isn't touching recreational use. This is about those who benefit from pot to function in everyday life without chronic pain.

 

Yeah that and the fact that prohibition didn't work so great the first time around.

Why be a slave, living in chains, being destroyed by an addiction.

you can break out of that prison if you really want it. After all, you control the security there. You're in charge..right?! Nothing is more powerful than a determined will.

that's my pep talk for the day

lovin' you

 

Well then you know that there has been scientific tests on marijuana for years upon years.

 

So there needs to be more. And the public should ask for it, and the results they come up with. We HAVE THE RIGHT to know what our governemt is doing when it comes to health and science.

 

"New York Mayor LaGuardia's Marijuana Commission concludes that there is no link between cannabis and violence, instead citing beneficial effects of marijuana. Harry Anslinger goes berserk, denouncing Mayor LaGuardia and threatening doctors with prison terms should they dare to carry out independent research on cannabis."

 

Year 1942 ​

The Japanese invasion of the Philippines cuts off the U.S. supply of Manila hemp. The U.S. government immediately distributes 400,000 pounds of cannabis seeds to farmers from Wisconsin to Kentucky. Just four short years after cannabis was outlawed as the "assassin of youth," the government requires farmers to attend showings of the USDA pro-cannabis classic, Hemp for Victory.

Year 1964​

Dr. Raphael Mechoulam of the University of Tel Aviv isolates THC Delta-9, the primary active ingredient in cannabis -- and one of at least 60 compounds found in cannabis that have therapeutic value.

I could keep going...

 

Change MUST start at the ballot box, the mechanisms of democracy don't work if the voter doesn't show up. In the mid-term elections in '06 it is imperative that we break the one party rule that has gripped this country for so long! Marajuana, like other issues must have a voice in the political processes of this nation.

 

Unfortunately, a whole crop of TRADITIONALIST IGNORANT ASSHOLES are being bred each day by their traditionalist ignorant asshole parents who make sure they do everything possible to keep their kids "traditional". These Christian fundamentalists have revamped the old dogma such as making Christian music "cool" (more like secular music) and all these logos and Bible-hype presentable to the younger generation. When in reality it's still the same old hard-nosed dogma (just candycoated) which spits at legalizing marijuana and the like.

As long as people believe that "Jesus" doesn't want them to go crazy on pot (which is absurd) they will make sure EVERYBODY else has none-- because they are LOOKING OUT FOR OUR BEST INTEREST.

You can't separate the fact that the dogma behind this "moral" drug war is based on Christian fundamentalist ideals of "morality". At least in this country.

 

I just saw the live vote on MSN on whether medical patients should be prosecuted for MJ. An overwhelming 88% voted no.