Israeli Bombing of Lebanon

Discussion in 'Protest' started by DQ Veg, Jul 13, 2006.

  1. dd3stp233

    dd3stp233 -=--=--=-

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  2. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Thanks for the link DD.
     
  3. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    I'd like to introduce ya some of the British heroes & heroines, may Allah bless them and protect them, AMEN, I'm so proud of them, read the following
    Anti-war campaigners arrested
    Monday August 7, 09:41 AM Source
    They care, really care
    What a courage and bravery
    wish ya All the best
    *Peace and love*
    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens

     
  4. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    Here are more about those heroes and heroines,From Al-Jazeera site
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    Go Go
    *Peace and love*
    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens

     
  5. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    Masha'Allah, here are some good news from Moroccan Jews


    *Peace and love*
    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens
     
  6. DQ Veg

    DQ Veg JUSTYNA'S TIGER

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    Well, that's more symbolic than anything else. The Moroccan courts can try him all they want, but it's not going to mean anything-that would be the equivalent of a Jamaican court trying Colin Powell as a war criminal just because he was born there.

    Nice try, but you can be sure that Peretz won't be extradited to Morocco to stand trial.
     
  7. Schismatic

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    Thank you, DQ Veg for saying exactly what I've been thinking. The current Israeli offensive against Lebanon makes no sense.

    Lebanon death toll - 683 (Reuters) to 900 (Lebanese PM)

    Israel death toll - 62 (24 of those being civilians)

    Source: BBC

    Much of the early phase of the Israeli attacks was concentrated on Lebanese infrastructure. Israel destroyed critical roads and bridges that linked south Lebanon to the north, thus preventing many southern Lebanese from escaping the bombing of more populace targets.

    These actions certainly do not increase the chances of a safe return of the 3 captured Israeli soldiers. I'm inclined to believe that rescuing the soldiers is not Israel's real objective.

    But regardless of the motives, the results are clear. This conflict is increasing resentment toward Israel (and the US) and aiding recruitment of militant extremists. It is severely damaging a fledgling democracy that might have had a bright future. Worst, it is destroying people's lives and taking many away. These are the reasons it needs to stop.

    I love Israelis. I love Lebanese. But I see atrocities being committed here, and that troubles me deeply. War is awful. If it is ever acceptable, it is only as a last ditch effort, not as a means to exert dominance or influence. It is a statement of failure. A failure to love one another and recognize that we are all brothers.

    I am from the US, and my own country's support for Israel's military actions in this sickens me. So many Christians believe it is their duty as Christians to support Israel regardless. What the hell is so Christian about all of this killing?
     
  8. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    That's where I am Schismatic I support neither side in this attrocity. I say stop it now. It doesn't lead to American security, or cheaper oil prices or stability in the area. What is causing this I'd like to know? Someone is getting rich and many are dying.
     
  9. Piney

    Piney Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    This is a blood fued, without logic. We cannot separate the warring parties.



    The United Nations had a security force in Lebanon, it was unable to stop
    the build-up of Hezbollah rockets. Nor was it serious in mediating a prisoner exchange, or keeping the truce.

    Westerners put a much higher value on human life than Middle Easterners.
    Would we view the value of human life as they do it might help our understanding.

    We have paid $billions$ in subsidies to The UN, Israel, The Palistine Authority, Egypt and Lebanon, all to try and buy peace. What have we got for our money but contempt and disdain. In thier eyes we are weak and vacilating.

    Let them fight. Bring our troops back from Iraq. Its not worth our effort.
     
  10. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I don't think that is true it's something the west wants to believe, but I don't think it's true. Right now I don't think either side cares. Each wants to win and they don't care what the loss is.
     
  11. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Neither side has shown a consideration for the loss of innocent life. Each chooses to try and justify their destruction by pointing out the effects of the other. Neither has shown any compassion towards the innoncents that have been killed, they have only used them to build their case to more outrageous destruction. And the US by remaining complicit is even worse than the two parties warring, because they fund one side.
     
  12. Charise

    Charise Naked to the Cosmos

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    Oh, sure. That's the reason that Israel has killed ten times as many civilians as Hezbollah has. Israel has hundreds of nuclear bombs, but Hezbollah and the Palestininas have crude little pop guns in comparison. Good old "Western values". Sure.

    Besides, it was the "Western" Zionists that began the cycle of terrorism in the Middle East in the first place by bombing hotels, hospitals, and even inventing the car bomb in the 1940's. And who in the hell invented nuclear weapons anyway, the Tunisians? Gimme a break with these "Western values".
     
  13. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    Westerners put a much higher value on human life than Middle Easterners (i.e. Israelis in the Middle_East) yeah, and the war just gives us fresh facts dialy . very old info.
    *Peace and love*
    Yours Sincerely,

    Cat Stevens

     
  14. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    So are you saying the middle eastern arab puts less value on individual life Cat?
     
  15. DQ Veg

    DQ Veg JUSTYNA'S TIGER

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    The UN sponsored cease fire went into effect at 1am Eastern time today (8am Lebanese time). It requires the area between the Israeli-Lebanese border and the Litani River to be free of weapons except those possessed by the joint Lebanese Army-UNIFIL Force. It does not specifically call for the disarmament of the Hezbollah, but says that no one in the country will possess arms without approval of the Lebanese government. Israel is to stop its 'offensive' operations and Hezbollah is to cease its rocket attacks on Israel. Apparently all is quiet at this time. Let's hope (pray) it stays that way. This is the text of the UN Security Council resolution laying out the terms of the cease fire. http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/813FA150-DDD2-42BA-943D-F19AC6C00E2E.htm
     
  16. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    Israeli raid damages Temple of Bacchus​
    By Afshin Molavi Source
    Monday, August 14, 2006​
    That reminds me of this:
    *Peace and love*
    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens
     
  17. Peacebucket

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    i havent read this whole thing, so fill me in if im wrong. also ive been gone and havent been able to keep in news for a few months while this all started, and my mom's being a zionist isnt helping me. so... Hezballah attacks Israel, so Israel sends their entire army and kills hundreds of lebanon's civilians?

    i also heard however, that Hezballah shoots rockets from schools, hospitals, and residential areas hoping that Israel's army will shoot back. What is Israel to do?


    -peace
     
  18. Peacebucket

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    something i thought about while looking over more news stories, is. it almost seems that Hezbollah tries to make Israel look bad. I dont know what Israel can do, its a horrible situation for them since they have to defend themselves.

    -peace
     
  19. DQ Veg

    DQ Veg JUSTYNA'S TIGER

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    Hezbollah's already been firing some rockets into Israel, although they haven't hurt anybody, and Israel says it reserves the right to fire at any moving vehicle in South Lebanon. Lebanese are already being killed by artillery shells and bombs that hadn't exploded until they arrived in their villages and movement caused the bombs to detonate. Doesn't sound like much of a cease-fire to me.
    http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/28B398D5-2FBC-4C7F-9386-1D0F64FF9C06.htm

    http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/05F5A699-21F6-4E1F-8F5E-58C43FDC8377.htm
     
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