Is Salvia 4 me? EXPERINCED HIPPIES ADVICE WOULD BE APPRECIATED

I read somewhere that it was pretty much impossible to make a standardized extract above 40x because the equipment used to lay out the extract evenly is supposedly quite a bit more expensive to work with than regular extracts and it also takes a bit more time. This article was from a few years back though so its very possible they have become more efficient but be aware there are also some scammers too. I don't know what the fx is either tho.

If you got in California at a headshop for like $15-25 I'm guessing its 10x and probably standardized or something.

 

Damnit, I was buttraped then because I paid $40 per gram. Well I called this other place in a different city and they said they have one bag of 100x left and it's under $100; wouldn't give me exact price over the phone. I made sure that he specified that it said 100x and not 100fX. So standardized is preferred over non-standardized, correct?

 

Yes standardized is preferred, follow the advice in the thread though with what you have. Especially if it is standardized you should get as far as you'll want to go with it. If it is indeed standardized that price is probably not unheard of at smokeshops, the price I listed was non standardized.

 

Are you referring to this particular thread that I'm posting in? Because I don't see much information on it in here. Or were you talking about one of the sticky topics?

 

I just meant follow the advice on how to smoke it which is plentiful on 1st page of this thread.

Look bottom of the page , right corner to view previous pages.

 

Does this girl know what she's talking about? And is salviazone.com a good store to shop at as opposed to smoke shops?

 

Well the place I use to get it from doesn't sell it anymore, www.arenaethnobotanicals.com
I've never ordered from there but it looks legit and recommended from a spot I order other stuff from.

 

If you smoke it correctly, 5x or 10x should yield a full-on salvia breakthrough . . . in particular the 10x . . . i don't get these 40,60,80,100x posts. It's like the guy saying we all need to smoke 300 mgs of DMT . . . Why when smaller doses when consumed properly will get almost everyone profound effects? . . .

Yes, there are a few people who are truly insensitive to Salvinoran A, but when you control for proper technique, flame heat, holding time, etc. i honestly believe they are in a tiny minority.

Just gravity bong a 5x bowl. You'll go all the way if you can hold it 20 seconds . . . .

 

Are you saying arenaethnobotanicals looks legitimate or salviazone looks legitimate? Or both?

See, when I smoked 10x and held it in for about 15 seconds, I just got dizzy and had balance issues, as if gravity shifted. And that was it; no hallucinations or any kind of CEV/OEV or breakthrough. Perhaps I didn't take a hard enough hit?
And we're using a small water bong. Is that the same as a gravity bong?

 

go with the arenabotanicals I'm pretty sure someone was on here a little while ago saying you need at least red to breakthrough with salvia zone, the other one flat out tells you the extracts. 10x standardized should be good but what I've been saying it sounds like that's what you already have?

 

Yah well you know, people have it set in their mind that it can't be anything wrong with them and their technique so they need a ridiculous extract/dose or that they think salvia is a weed high with a bad body buzz hahaha! And give up on it after 1 or 2 uses of trying it with bad technique.

That being said I do have it in my mind spicey to never hit salvia with a goddamn gravity bong. Sheesh

 

Yes, I already have two grams of 10x standardized.
But I'm very anxious to see what 100x standardized does. 100x is where they extract the salvinorin A from 99 different salvia leaves and combine it all onto the 100th leaf? So it's 99 different salvinorin A extracts plus the one to which you're adding all the extracts, and that equals 100x?

Guerillabedlam, what do you use instead of a water bong?
And the proper technique would be to use a lighter and burn the salvia as long as you're smoking it? I noticed that salvia doesn't burn like cannabis, as in, continuing to stay lit. So you burn the entire bowl that you've packed the whole time you're inhaling, correct? As in, lighting it continuously? And after that step, hold in for 20-30 seconds and exhale slowly?

EDIT: Is this guy using a bad smoking technique?

 

I use a water bong when I hit it, I used a pipe once and it was minimal effects. I think that guy got a sub breakthrough hit and I consider that bad technique, He did seem to trip fairly good though so possibly a decent strength extract or quality leaf was used. On a breakthrough its really difficult to hear people talking to you or even talk coherently yourself.

And yes, burn it the entire time you are smoking it and hold it in for 20 seconds, take 2 hits with 10x even if you feel it after the first one a bit.

 

i don't think 100X is quite as precise as taking the extract of 99 leaves and putting it on 1 leaf. trust us...you don't need 100X.

that was me, hahah. until i tried it again with proper technique and realized it was WAY more than i bargained for.

this time i gave up on it because it was just TOO much. i probably should have just saved that 2nd dose though. i could see myself doing it ONE more time.

 

You guys certainly know more than I do so I'll take your word on it.

Getting proper technique down is the most crucial part of the whole process, I've learned. Should I back the bong bowl with the entire gram? It'll definitely fit since I have different sized wire screens to put in the thing that you pack the herb in (what's it called?).
When you're saying to take 2 hits, I'm assuming that I'm not going to be able to fill up my lungs with all the smoke from just one hit. In that case, it's light the entire time of inhalation and hold for 30 seconds; exhale slowly. Then repeat process to finish off the bowl.

How much should a newbie smoke? Half a gram or the entire gram? I have 2 grams for 2 people so it's not like I need to be conservative about it. I just don't know how much my body will need in order to have a "break-through".
I'm 5'7" and weigh 126 lbs and my metabolism is rather high, if that helps any. My friend is also like me except he's not as light as me and his metabolism isn't as fast as mine.

Thanks guys!

 

like a 1/4 gram if that, definitely not half a gram. It should fill your bowl about half way up or so.

 

uh yeah i like went back into the headshop and the lady working there told me you NEED a steamroller or a bong to actually bring salvia into your lungs and actually absorb into your body is that true or just a load of BS also if i use a homemade gravity bong would that work, and when i say homemade i mean using powerade bottle with a hole in the bottome and a socket in the top being for the bowl, appreciate the advise

 

Total BS. She probably just wanted you to spend money there. That's weird that she actually discussed the smoking techniques with you. Around my way, headshop employees won't talk about the effects of the herbs and things they sell because they are sold strictly as "incense" and not for human consumption, especially Salvia. But anyway, I brokethrough on 25x using a pipe and butane lighter. A gravity bong will probably work fine.

 

thanks for the advice

 

what you described is a "waterfall" though, not a gravity bong. for a gravity bong, you cut the bottom part of a bottle off, and have a bowl (like your socket hooked to the bottle cap) at the top. you fill a 2nd container with water. submerge part of the bottle in the water, and pull up slowly as you light it. then unscrew the cap and push the bottle down (somewhat slowly) as you inhale your hit. i'm sure you can find a video on youtube if it's hard to understand as written words.

i only said two hits, because that's what did it for me. i have a pretty small bowl head on my bong, and it was only filled halfway. two decent sized hits finished it, but i think it i had much more in there, i wouldn't have finished it - i would be too far out of it. although it's a leaf, so it burns pretty fast. so if you pack a lot, you just might smoke it all. 1/4 g should be plenty. but remember, you have to smoke it quickly. don't take a hit and pass it to your friend. pack your whole dose at once, and take a big hit. HOLD it, exhale, and immediately take your next hit. this is where the waterfall or G-bong might become tricky.