is michael Jackson innocent or guilty of child molestation?

I'll second hhb on this... If this is how you feel about this, stay the hell away from here, because I would definitely beat you to death for looking at my daughter.

The grown man who crawls into a child's bed, or invites a child (that isn't theirs) into their bed, has serious mental issues. As for him being a 'gentle soul' therefore couldn't have done this... wake the fuck up... do you think all child molesters wander around beating on puppies and kicking cats??? Or is it that you think its okay for him to molest kids because he was gentle about it?? WTF

 

when stabby has kids of their own i think they may see things a bit differently.

then again,maybe they support NAMBLA. they dont think its wrong because in their eyes its not hurting anyone either.

 

Children are our future

This is not a meaningless bunch of nonsense, this is simple fact. It is them who will carry on after we are gone.

What type of future do we want for them and their children and so on?

Do we want one where kids are allowed to be kids and to grow up in an atmosphere free of molestation and abuse, or do we want one where there are exceptions, where it is okay for some to take advantage of their innocence and forever warp their view of the world?

Me, I want the first one, and as such, do not accept as valid any reasoning that puts a child in a situation where they are going to be harmed.

This includes more then just the issue of sexual molestation, this includes putting them in situations where they suffer physical and/or emotional harm.

This includes things like smashing babies off railings and dangling them to 'impress' to press... and once a person crosses that line, what is the point of giving them a single second of doubt about the rest of it?

It doesn't matter what type of abuse it is... abuse is abuse, and one who does it is an abuser, and whether or not they have physically raped a child, softly seduced them, played doctor with them or 'only' beat them, they are no longer in any way shape or form, fit to be around ANY child.

 

i think he was innocent, but frankly i don't care about his personal life.

 

You're right, he did have mental issues. And since he didn't do any harm to anyone he isn't deserving of your displaced hatred and prejudice. I don't see what the deal is if no harm was done to anyone. And your speculated, imaginary definition of harm doesn't count, as is true for anything speculated.

I have nothing but sympathy for MJ. Unjustified fear and hatred is no way for me to live my life.

As for the threats, don't be a thug. And don't try to portray me as a criminal.

 

Once again, yes, he did;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aiAqR5jF2s

Is this not him? Is that not his baby? Do you think that calling that abuse is wrong? Beyond any rational doubt, that shows he has no sense of what is right and wrong with children. That is the line he crossed. From there, I have zero issues with saying, if he is capable of that shit, then there is no way I will believe he knows what right and wrong is, and therefore have no problem saying he was a danger to children and abused them.

My statement stands as fact, if this is the way you feel about this issue, you are not safe coming around me if there is any child near.

And at no point in time did I say or portray you as a criminal.

 

All right whatever. When somebody is mentally ill, peaceful and not meaning to harm anyone I respond with sympathy, not slander and hatred.

 

So, if a mentally ill person rapes your child, your response will be sympathy to them???

 

Wonder why he paid 20 million to one of his accusers to make him go away?Hmmmmm.

 

To avoid an emotionally scarring trial and media circus.

I don't believe that Michael Jackson molested any children as there is no evidence or logical reduction that he did.

 

I would pay every single cent I had and could get my hands on to crush this in court.

In no way would any intelligent person think that paying the people off would be good, unless it was to avoid the facts coming out in court.

The media circus and and 'scarring' took place anyway, as was obvious they would.

So, why wouldn't you fight this in court to the last dime you have access to, instead of paying a small percentage of your worth to avoid things that are unavoidable???

 

He's a celebrity, perhaps the biggest celebrity. Everyone saw what the paparazzi, media and general public who love to have something new to hate and stew about, etc did to him during that time. All the jokes and all the hatred. I can understand wanting to avoid a trial and a media circus. That all took place because it did go to court.

 

I just know he's dead, joy !!!

 

Guilty as Fuck.

 

On sad note for the folks who are with Jackson being the guilty one.

Comeing up to 3 years since, the kid was able to hold a court hearing in Madison County NJ. after Chandler struck him with a dumbell to the head which in turn finally provided evidence of the beatings/abuse... Aug 11, 2005

Realy nice to see all you guys supportive of abusers and beaters. I mean even though chandlers past record was daming. Chandler still got custody of him. Everything was happy with you guys.

This thread is nonsense. The judge Threw out Chandlers case and held hearings on whether to pursue extortions on both him and Rothman in which Jackson declined. He gave the kid $20mil and $1mil to parents each. Now i Realize jackson should of gotten them both jailed, maybe the kid wouldn't have been beaten for a decade.

So You guys approve of the end results being .

Jackson Mythically loseing a court case in which the judge through out, due to the kid confessed and a daming tape against chandler and rothman.

The mother running off.

Rothman leaching off of eworlds corporation, in which eworlds finally got rid of him through court means.

And Chandler beating/abuseing the kid for the next 10 years. I guess you guys want chandler to get the money somehow, right ?

This is obviously worth the south park episode right ?

 

I believe he was innocent--I will always believe he was innocent, and nothing you say will convince me otherwise! Those charges that were brought against him were bogus--I think that the people who created that whole fiasco were just looking to make some easy money, and the whole thing backfired on them! He was a decent human being--why would he do something to harm another person? He didn't have it in him! Why not just leave him alone so he can rest in peace?

 

Yeah it doesn't matter at this point. I think he was guilty but theres no way we know for sure so its pretty much just opinion. But yeah that had to be one of the scariest black people alive. RIP

 

Just trying to figure out the logic of this thread. People say "I guess we will never know" Yet all the information to this ordeal is readily available to research and find.

So question is: What mentally stops people from doing a grader's level of research to find out what actually went on ? This occurs with every major topic in the world today for some reason.

This case was simple we have :

Jackson Saying it never happened.

We have the kid saying it never happened. http://www.makli.com/jordan-chandler-admits-he-lied-about-michael-jackson/

Mother: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/04/16/entertainment/main688656.shtml

vs.

Chandler: Chandler Who the kid has a restraining order against. Due to: http://www.pr-inside.com/entertainment-blog/2006/09/05/jackson-accuser-taking-father-to-court/

So what does it take for people who, they say are against abusers, To stop supporting them ?

 

Heh. Oh but people need something to be outraged about. And celebrities, especially amazingly talented and impressive ones (and weird FREAKS! Damn them!) are the perfect scapegoat for displaced rage.

 

Thank you!

I never believed he did it. At some points I wasn't sure what to believe, but never did I hear or see anything that made me think "aha! he's guilty!"
Michael was a damaged man, but he wasn't totally deranged. I believe he knew right from wrong, and he knew enough to never put a kid through the things he went through. Even as Bashir is attacking him and setting him up with questions designed to make him look like a freak, this much came through for me.