Is ketamine considered a hard drug?

yeah but not funnier from The US law... Cannabis being schedule 1 and Cocaine being less (Schedule 2)... The US is hilarious, its one funny country with one funny president... I just like to look at the US on a globe ball and laugh hysterically... I do it everyday b4 I sleep...

 

I didn't know that. That is funny.

I think the reason cannabis is schedule 1 is because it's use is so widespread, I guess it's to try and put people off doing it.

 

That's the problem, you're guessing.
Ketamine is one of the safest drugs around which is why it's class C (the same as cannabis, valium etc.) in the UK.
Here drugs are classified according to how dangerous they are.

 

i would consider anything that you can be addicted too from doing it once or twice a hard drug. in the case of ketamine, i cant really see having a steady enough supply to get hooked on it. where im at it comes around once in awhile when someone is ballsy enough to steal it from the vet.

 

In the UK ketamine is one of the easiest drugs to get hold of, I know quite a few people that are or have been addicted to it.

 

yeah true... however alot of the powder sold as ketamine there is actually crushed rohypnols...

 

I'm fairly sure that isn't true.
The ketamine in the UK is renound for being very pure. Most of it is pharmaceutical grade stuff bought from the internet.

 

Great! Im plannin a drug vacation this January... Drugs of interest:
Heroin
Cocaine
Ketamine
pure MDMA
Rohypnol

Is it gna be easy finding that stuff there, What I mean is r they available?

 

In the UK?
I don't know about heroin or rohypnol, but coke, ketamine and MDMA should be no problem at all.

 

Ketamine is somewhere in between hard or soft.....it's certainly the safest NMDA receptor antagonist dissociative. Relativley safe, but not ideal for lifestyle usage. NMDARADs are toxic to the brain. But Ketamine seems safer than DXM, and especially safer than PCP.

But Salvia would be the safest dissociative, although it is partly psychedelic too. Though Salvia is definitely not as pleasant as Ketamine.

 

While ketamine is rather safe, I'de say it isn't as safe as pot and the serotogenic psychedelics. Physically they can be considered a little worse, but yeah of course they are still very safe.

 

Define 'safe'. Smoking cannabis is harmful to your lungs and increases the risk of cancer, there's nothing like that with ketamine.

 

Smoking cannabis alone will not increase your chances of lung cancer. This has been scientifically proven. And even if it did you don't have to smoke it. You can cook it up and eat it too.

Ketamine is neurotoxic. Cannabis isn't. Salvia might be neurotoxic, but so far no studies have shown this.

I'de say Ketamine is somewhere in between hard and soft, but definitely more on the soft side. Especially compared to heroin.

 

ketamine is pretty addictive. i love special k but i think most would probably consider it a hard drug because it does make people fiend for it and people often use the needle for K. Most people i know consider ketamine to be a pretty hardcore drug.

i dont think its that bad but i can see how it would be easy to to get an addiciton for it. i however cannot afford k on a regular basis that would be very expensive so it is only an occasional thing for me. but i do decide to have a K-weekend i buy a lot and i do find myself fiending for it

 

do u consider it to be more hardcore than ecstasy?

 

yeah i'd have to say it is more hardcore than ecstasy. i wouldnt really consider ecstasy a hard drug, even tho the effects produced by it are very intense

 

ecstasy is far more risky/dangerous then k I would say.

 

K is a dissociative isnt it?
no dissociative is considered a safe drug... lol with its pleasures can come risks, just like most drugs..

"Such a state of sensory deprivation and dissociation can facilitate self-exploration, hallucinations, and dreamlike states of mind which may resemble some psychedelic mindstates.
Many dissociatives also have central nervous system depressant effects, thereby carrying similar risks with opioids that slow breathing and lower the heart rate to levels which can result in death, when used in very high doses."

under "dissociation":
"dissociation is associated with decreased psychological functioning and adjustment. Other symptoms sometimes found along with dissociation in victims of abuse can include anxiety, PTSD, low self-esteem, somatization, depression, chronic pain, interpersonal dysfunction, substance abuse, self-multilation and suicidal ideation or actions. These symptoms may lead the victim to erroneously present the symptoms as the source of the problem."

id say any drug with a verified LD(lethal dose) is a hard drug..

 

as far as this thread goes, no point us all givin our oppinions on whether we think these drugs are 'hard' or not... 'hard' and 'soft' is generally a cultural thing decided by groups. To straighties, ketamine is 'animal tranquilisers' - a hard drug. To recreational drug users, it is not a hard drug. And to junkies, that shit is a soffft drug (or maybe just a weird one)

 

what are hard drugs to junkies then?