Is it wrong that I prefer the company of straight dudes?

I thought something didn't look/feel quite right about the setting. Although the characters in the film were awesome. You sure came up with a lot of impressive background info! :2thumbsup:

QP

 

It's on the films wiki page. :smoking:

 

so what your saying is the info is as valid as some random troll looking to start and argument about the subject.

 

No. The info is correct. Nobody is having an argument about this.

http://comeheretome.com/2010/07/14/1-dublin-in-film-educating-rita-1983/

 

I just prefer the company of men, gay, straight, whatever. I love guys. Everything about them, looks, personality, intellect. Men are goddamn beautiful. Inside and out.

But I would like to take this opportunity to point out that you are majorly stereotyping here. I'm gay. Never had even a slightest interest in women. And i'm nothing like the 'gay guy' (sorry but 'queer' isn't a category for sexuality. It's just a word describing a person off in some sort of way) you described. And most guys I know aren't like that either. It is true that I don't hang out in the gay scene, and the gay guys i've met haven't come from that gay scene themselves either, so I'm unaware of the default attitude of the people in that environment. However, I do know that guys, gay or straight, can get silly/superficial about the people they wanna fuck. i.e. people they only have a superficial interest in. then out come all the things their partner should or shouldn't have/do/say...etc, the whole thing sounds ridiculous, but I get it that if a guy isn't interested in the person but just the sex there will be certain minimal standards to live up to.

 

Actually, that's why I used the word "many" (not most or all) gay dudes can be too superficial for comfort. And yes, the ones I met were part of the gay scene. Big time. I used to go to a lot of bars (gay and straight), and I ultimately decided gay bars were not somewhere I enjoyed going. However, I did continue going to straight bars, and always enjoyed the experience. Conversation was more common. Plus I used to go to bars that had poetry readings and open mikes. And I always left these places feeling like it was time well spent.

Anyway, my point is I never said all gay people are superficial. I've had 3 gay lovers (long term), and they were smart and compassionate men. Also, my best friend is gay, and we frequently have long talks about politics, movies, books, etc. I've known him for 14 years. And I think he is totally awesome. :2thumbsup:

QP

 

I believed you the first time around. And totally appreciated all the cool background info about the film. In fact, I'm gonna see if my local public library has it available on DVD. :sunny:

QP

 

Well, miracles are good things... I'm not sure that me surviving was a good thing! lol Especially when I look to the future.... it really scares me.

A reason? I dunno, maybe I was put on this earth to look after cats... hehe And thank you, I'm glad you are still on this earth too.

 

You're very welcome.

And looking after cats is a good reason. :sunny:

QP

 

I have an urge to call somebody 'numb nuts' - is this wrong of me?

 

There is nothing wrong with a gay man hanging out with straight guys, but it is something I cannot do. I have absolutely nothing in common with straight guys, other than the fact that we both have cocks, and I just end up feeling extremely uncomfortable around them.

 

Nope. Just as long as somebody's not me (I hope).

QP

 

I get what you're saying. And it's totally valid. But the straight dudes I hang out with do have a lot in common with me: An appreciation of politics, poetry, film, writing, psychology, etc. So I feel quite at home.

QP

 

No, not you. I wasn't in a very good mood yesterday.

 

I was just kidding. LOL.

BTW, I did see Educating Rita (again). And all your background info about the film is more obvious to me now. When I first saw it, I kept thinking: Why does the location NOT seem like it's actually London?

Now I'm wondering about 84 Charing Cross Road (another good film)? The location is supposed to be in both New York and London. But things aren't always as they seem.
I guess that's what makes a good movie all the more magical. :sunny:

QP

 

I read through the whole thread, and this post is the one that made my blood boil the most. Share the same mindset? That is so friggin insulting, I'd end up smothering myself with a pillow if I went through life feeling the need at every opportunity to verbalise ever insignificant thought in my head in the most annoying nasally voice possible.

Everyone else gets all this shit from TV and movies, Rom Coms and stuff like sex in the City - stuff that is marketed to woman, where the gay guy is usually the overly dramatic, non threatening ( i.e short) funny sidekick. Either that or shows like Brothers and Sisters where they trying and hetero it out so its still not threatening and the gay couple sit around crapping on about trust and communication.

None of that stuff happens in real life, the biggest scream queens dont get on with chics cos the chics all just get bitchy, and if you turn up with a guy prettier than them, then super turbo charged bitchy.

Throw in the standard not all girls are the same, thank god: 1/2 the gay girls, the ones under 21 that are actually innocent, the ones that do something with their life rather than just latching on to a guy and making babies.

The rest of them though are just miserable creatures, all they do is bitch and whine and complain all the time. And that super annoying act where every guy out of their league wants to molest them, which just gets worse the bigger their ass gets.

Its just like everyone else, you only have time for those you have common interests with, whatever your thing is, whether its rockclimbing, tennis, music festivals, whatever.....and person or persons you are going to bump uglies with

Now for the tricky part: As for those common interests, if your thing is cooking classes or yoga you'll hang out with a lot of chics doing that, everyone else will see that at a glance, and think, oh he gets on well with chics. But that doesnt mean you have anything to do with them outside that....because with everything else, if you dont flirt constantly, give them a lot of attention, be there for every stupid fake emotional breakdown, if they cant get money out of you or use you in someway....then they dont want to know you, they'll disappear until the next crisis.

A lot of that kind of stuff no one else ever gets to see, especially the last couple years with the daddy issues; they wont let you near other chics knowingly anyway cos you are their secret gayy BFF daddy thingy, cant bring along any of my friends, anyone else gets more attention they go psycho bitchy, cant get angry with them or even tell them to f off, cos that just means drama, Daddy abandonment issues cos their own father is fed up. And at the same time they'll still try suck money out of you, expect you to pay for everything for the sheer honour of basking in their presence or whatever.

Then, as on these forums as with real life, everyone else making out there is something wrong with me, damaged as a child, a mysoginist if i express any sentiment along the lines of they are all fuckin crazy, or I cant possibly understand the meaning of happiness unless I get stuck with one of them and make a bunch of bratty little carbon copies.

Real life is soooooooo not like TV and Movies

 

I totally agree with this part of what you said, VG.

I never liked TV shows such as Will and Grace and Queer Eye For the Straight Guy (or was it Straight Guy for the Queer Eye? LOL).

The former just seemed to be wishful thinking, while the latter seemed to border on heterophobia (I guess that's a word).

Anyway, I just thought the concept that a bunch of gay dudes could and should teach straight dudes how to dress, cook, and decorate their homes -- was insulting at best, and absurd at worst.

It is a stereotype to think that ALL gay men know how to dress, have perfect homes, and are the best cooks in the world. It also is a stereotype to think most straight men have no clue when it comes to clothes, live like slobs in their homes, and don't even know how to boil water. So I never understood the show's popularity. Unless it was pure satire?

I can tell you this much: I cannot cook. I am a very poor housekeeper. And I pretty much wear whatever I can find at Goodwill. Yet I am totally gay.

Yet I know a straight dude that lives in my building, and his apartment looks like it came right out of the pages of Better Homes and Gardens. Plus the dude's home cooked meals would make Julia Child blush.

In fact, he once gave me a bunch of his cast off shirts, and told me I needed them much more than he did. LOL.

Anyway, I hear what you're saying about how TV and real life are seldom (if ever) the whole truth. :2thumbsup:

QP

 

'bratty little carbon copies', lol, that's exactly what kids are. annoying little shits.

but yeah, people seem to have this weird idea that it's not possible to just dislike women even if you're into men. you have to at least like their personalities, or whatever else there is to them. if you don't then they think something must have happened to make you this way. truth is, it is possible to generalize women and men to a certain degree. and women and men in general have certain behavioral trends. it's the attitude in the upper half of the bell curve that you see more often than not. and in the feminine that is that craziness, overdramatization and irrationality that gets expressed there.

 

That only happened to me once. A girl I used to go to church with (long story) suddenly figured out I was gay. Her reaction was totally extreme. She wanted to know why I hated women so much, and also informed me I was going straight to hell.

Truth be told, I have a lot of respect and admiration for many women:

Janis Joplin
Sylvia Plath
Mother Teresa
Marilyn Monroe
Anne Sexton
May Sarton
Jane Fonda
Anne Frank
Renee Richards
Natalie Merchant
Camille Paglia
Grace Slick
Joni Mitchell
Emily Dickinson
Frances Farmer
Diane Arbus, etc.

But most of my friends have always been straight and gay men.

Except when I was in my teens (another long story).

I'm not really sure why that is. It just seems like men are more drawn to me than women are. So I just go with the flow. But there are many women in history that I know have made the world a better place for all. And I am grateful for them. In a big way. :sunny:

QP

 

Woah, I'm a bit dismayed at the blatant sexism shown here...