Is it time to talk about guns?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Balbus, Mar 24, 2021.

  1. Eric!

    Eric! Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    First off, thank you for your service to our country, and I truly mean that from the bottom of my heart. I only asked because a lot of folks have never served one day, and consider themselves to be heroes for storming the capitol on Jan 6th- which I thought was quite repulsive- especially from the participation of active duty service members, veterans and retirees!

    The site allows for expressions from many viewpoints, and always has. The members here respond to posts no different than members on any other social media site. From what I’ve seen, It’s actually pretty harsh elsewhere, compared to this site, especially when it comes to politics.
     
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  2. scratcho

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    IMO, anyone that uses "god given rights ", hasn't thought that through.
     
  3. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Handguns are a great danger, but the damage they inflict is usually small in the amount of time required to inflect injuries and deaths in comparison to assault weapons, some of which are handguns.
     
  4. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    A fetish in the context of this thread, is:
    As such claiming someone has a gun fetish is not necessarily a personal attack.

    If someone wishes to clarify or deny that they have an unreasonably excessive attention or reverence for guns, all they have to do is explain why they feel they don't, in a rational manner.
    By the same token the one claiming that someone has a gun fetish is certainly entitled to explain why they believe that fetish exists.
     
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  5. MollyCuddled

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    i think that’s a good definition and my evidence for the excessive attention or reverence is a steadfast unwillingness to compromise, ie go back to 1776 (assuming that was supposed to be 1788), a core understanding of the constitutional facts that’s incorrect and support of the inanimate objects above supporting racial freedom (13th amendment) and women’s suffrage (19th amendment) - ie go back to 1776. If the love of the guns was based on a genuine philosophy, one would be able to articulate that philosophy clearly without logical gaps and errors. Absent that, as we saw here, it fits the definition of fetish

    In what way is that not accurate?
     
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  6. Piney

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    Sportscaster Steven A. Smith does a deep dive in on gun violence. Moving past the usual pieties and shibboleths of the political class. This is a grass roots Cri du coeur.

     
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  8. Piney

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    I dont own a gun. I did not mention The Constitution in my hastily justified position ignoring all other aspects of the argument allong the way.
     
  9. MollyCuddled

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    Correct - the person with the gun fetish did
     
  10. Piney

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    Well. I've been spoken to about fetish (2524). So will just call it a Myopic fixation.
     
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  11. Piobaire

    Piobaire Village Idiot

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    I can't think of a better, more accurate, or descriptive word than "fetish" to describe the deep-seated emotional attachment that people feel towards an instrument of mass murder in spite of mounting piles of dead American corpses.
     
  12. Piney

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    Its a Ying / Yang thing. we have our gun nuts with a gun fetish. Then we have this thread, where assault weapons are fetishised to the exclusion of the weapons that are doing most gun crime.
    That is: a weapon that will be concealed in the waistband. an odd dichotomy.

    Opinion | Gun Owners vs. Gun Nuts

    good read if you can break the paywall
     
  13. MollyCuddled

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    That may be true but that’s not why the term was used in this thread as I previously detailed. That guy has a gun fetish
     
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  14. Piobaire

    Piobaire Village Idiot

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    No dichotomy here.
    I see no legitimate purpose to people being allowed to own (and carry) semiautomatic handguns with 17 to 33 round (or more) magazines, either.

    AK-47 pistol
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  16. MeAgain

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    They are considered assault weapons in some jurisdiction.
     
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    If trump and his goons take over it might be your only protection
     
  19. MollyCuddled

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    Separate drinking fountains and open bigotry toward minorities was also very common at that time
     
  20. soulpoker

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    So there was better, there was worse.
    What will we have in 50 to 100 years? No one will bat an eye at gay couples, but every other person will have cancer. Or violent crime will go down, but so will sex. We can only guess.
     

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