Is it time to Destroy the Islamic World?

This thread's title is stupid. How could you "destroy the Islamic World?" Why would you? Do you turn the whole region and its hundreds of millions of people into a prison camp? Or just kill them all like the fucking Nazis?

It's just miserable and racist and brutal to suggest such a thing. It's like those terrorists who want to destroy America. Let's face it, we've all got to live in the same world.

 

I think there is some confusion here...
I guess I didnt clarify what exactly I meant by 'Islamic World' and thats because its a generalised question.

Sure.. if we got 'down to it' we would identify the exact countries to be considered 'Enemy' nations.

For example.. Turkey has been pretty good with everyone and really, as a 'government' they are opposed to Jihadists more than anyone.

Again, I would ask everyone to see this in the context of defeating the 'Third Reich'.
Of course, it wasn't 'Anti-German' in the sense we were going to 'kill all germans'.. no.. It was to dismantle the 'German War Machine' and remove its leadership and its governments and systems.

Personally I dont think it will be necessary and I see almost as much instability as we have with these Theocracies and Kingdoms in place anyway.

Mainly because the natural greed of the 'Alliance' nations would probably result in fights over the 'Spoils of War'.
Oil in case you wondered.

Then again.. wouldnt the world be a much safer place IF the 'Islamic Reich' was taken over by the Western Alliances?

 

I dont think your going to get people to support a war and whats going to happen is the first thing we will know about it lots of our citys will start getting nuked

the same thing happened before world war two people buried their heads in the sand

really you dont need to start a war because the other side have already started it except most people are to dumb to see it

 

Just curious, how will our cities get nuked? Most of the mid-east doesn't have nuiclear capability, nor missiles capable of traveling that far a distance.... Best they could do would be a backpack bomb type thing, and, well it just wouldn't have the same effect...

 

The world just doesn't work that way. How are you going to accomplish that? What are the repercussions going to be? Why are those repercussions going to happen?

I mean, from a pure theoretical standpoint, wouldn't the world be a much safer place IF everyone stopped fighting both militarily and economically, and coexisted peacefully?

Why were we attacked in the first place, and why do we still receive threats today? Osama's reasoning was this:

"But after the injustice was so much and we saw transgressions and the coalition between Americans and the Israelis against our people in Palestine and Lebanon, it occurred to my mind that we deal with the towers. And these special events that directly and personally affected me go back to 1982 and what happened when America gave permission for Israel to invade Lebanon. And assistance was given by the American sixth fleet."

Should we not, perhaps, adapt our foreign policy instead of waging a war that in all probability, we can't can?

 

Let's have Ameica take over everyone! So who's after the Ismalists? Christians? Jews again? Those Buhddists are pretty evil. Or we could go on a witch hunt, or take out the african continents. Let's westernize the world, wipe out every culture that isn't ours...Hmm...How about we nuke our own ghettos?! Wouldn't the world be better without the ghettos? So lets destroy them all!!

Some people are just fucked in the head.

 

we dont need war to do this. Disney and Coke are working their magic.

 

Haha let's make the British Empire look like child's play!

 

"Western civilization?
It would be a good idea"

Ghandi

 

LOL

 

Personally, I agree strongly with Megara that Disney and Coke (and certainly WalMart, Heinz/Kerry Catsup, KFC and Adult Entertainment etc etc) will over-take the Islamic World.
Within 15 years the Middle East will be just another Consumeristic Territory like everywhere else.

The problem is that the desperate 'Jihadists' see their fate and are lashing out by killing women and children (and innocent men too of course) as well as torturing and slaughtering many many Muslims.

Bush has done a good job finding the 'middle road'.
Basically if any individual nation is either actively attacking the Global world (Afghanistan) - then they are eliminated and their theocracy is taken away from them.
IF a country is basically being 'Helpful' or convenient to Jihadists (or is fucking around) like Iraq - Then they also get taken out.

So basically.. a 'Case by Case' basis.

This is really a perfect stategy but has one inherint flaw... (maybe?) - yes it does 'lure' the Jihadists to the Alliance (where we can kill them) ..but.... it might also send more and more Jihadists and Militant Muslims to 'Concentrate' back into one or two Middle eastern nations.

So while we will eventually destroy and take over more and more of the Middle East (besides the two already) - Will we see the 'Syria's' and Iran's become much much more dangerous after all?

Well at least Libya has agreed to back out of the Islamic Reich.

Three down.. lots to go folks!

 

btw.. Johny2mad (for all his fury) did indeed seem to be the only poster aware that the Islamic Theocracies have ALREADY began a World War against the 'West' and have NO intention of stopping.
In fact, the more we 'back off' and 'ignore them' (ala Clinton era) the MORE they will see it as victory and slaughter more and more Westerners.

Im only asking if we should fight back, REALLY fight back, or play it strategically and slyly?

 

why do you think they started this war, and what do you think it's about?

 

Brocktoon my man, I can understand and relate to where you're coming from.

I know that you and I would be fighting on every street corner across this land if we were suffering one/tenth of the racist colonial imperialism that the Arabs have suffered every year since they were first invaded by us in 1797.

And, if our nationalist leaders failed us, like their nationalist leaders failed them, then you and I would turn to crusading fundamentalism just like them.

 

good question.

I was reading this thread and my only point of view is were do you stop and when should we have started ... we being the non religous in the world.. I personaly dislike any fundementalism in any religeon (i dislike all religeon actualy in all its forms, basicaly because it has been abused)... Religeon has infected peoples souls in so many ways any real good has been washed away by hate.

 

well, I personally believe that what it's all about revolves around the Israel/Palestinian conflict, which began in earnest during WWI with Britain promising Arab's independence from from the Ottoman Empire, including Palestine, while at the same time promising a home for Jews within Palestine. Lots and lots of details and grievances from both sides. There's a really good reason why this issue is as complex as it is...

http://www.palestinehistory.com/time1900.htm#1948-1

 

British submarines torpedoed the Jewish ship full of Romanian Jews heading to Palestine (right after it left Istanbul)... the ship's name is Sturma.

 

when the war started was with the birth of islam and its not just a war against the west its a war against all non muslims
and ex muslims or muslims that wish to reform islam.

wherever you are if your a critic your likely to be killed by muslims,this was shown a couple of days ago with the death of the dutch film maker who made a film about the abuse of women in islam and was killed while riding his bike .

so even holland isnt a safe place or a place where you have freedom of speech.

the fact is the more strong islam is in a country the less liberty and personal freedom you have .

but still you have people supporting immigration of muslims into the west and supporting the spread of this vile so called religion

 

That killing was condemned by the Muslim community at large. The hatred and intolerance that fundamentalist Christian sects preach is just as evil, in my eyes, as the group that committed that killing. Just because the Lambs of Christ kill doctors doesn't mean that all Christians endorse murderers.

I understand where you get this opinion, but I suggest doing a little more research, because what is your solution to the problem using that logic? Containment? Genocide? I still maintain that perhaps a reform of the level that Martin Luther brought about for Christianity is what Islamic culture needs.

http://www.understanding-islam.com/

http://answering-islam.org.uk/

http://www.debate.org.uk/latest/home.htm

 

The question of attacking the 'Islamic World' (meaning all the Islamic Theocracies at once) is hypothetical and speculation.

However, in case anyone hasnt been watching the news lately, we have definately already done this with their worst offender - Afghanistan.

Iraq is a little bit unusual but basically they were a Nation (and i mean government) that was effectively 'not helpful' to the western Alliance.

So really, we already have established what can and would happen.

The real question is - Should we continue to do this to ALL the fundamentalist 'Islamic Theocracy' type Middle Eastern Nations/Kingdoms/Dictatorships?