Is it OK to kill certain animals?

I'm a vegetarian
but I eat shellfish and shrimp.. doesn't make me a vegetarian then, though... but I'm not a pescetarian.

I honestly don't care if you hunt. I mean I personally wouldn't like to hunt. I'd feel bad that the animal died... they're so cute. xD

maybe peta doesnt focus on insects because
a) people on our side of the world don't really eat them
b) theres no way to stop or make the killing more humane
c) bugs don't really have brains

 

Of course insects have brains, all invertebrates have brains, they are small but still there is a brain.

 

The last I heard was the only animal with no brain is the jellyfish, creepy. But I could be wrong.

 

starfish
there's a bunch, actually.

Well, by that I meant was that probably only feel some discomfot but not pain etc, like alot of other animals.

 

You are right, I had to take some time to educate myself.

But when a living creature of any sort is wounded it does create a mechanism of healing, whether plant,animal, microorganism or what not. So there is a certain type of reaction whether it is a a cerebral action or not. One could look at this as a reaction to pain or instinct. Even humans are able to ignore pain and put it aside does this mean that specific person has no brain and what about individuals that feel no pain in such a case as CIPA. Does having such a condition make it all right for a person to kill them because they feel no pain, of course not.


And behindthesun93 this is not really aimed at you, I am just rambling on about various thoughts that were on my mind.

 

Most people will kill a bug over a person with CIPA because the human has emotions, and they have more than instincts, a human wouldn't kill another human because that human may contribute to another human. The insect releases a stress hormone when injured, but it does not have as much of an impact on a persons life if it's dead. And I thought it's pretty much only humans that are able to 'ignore' their pain. Maybe dogs and cows etc can too.

I personally don't kill bugs though. Only kill something if it's for your own self-defense or survival.

 

I understand, that makes sense. I was just feeding the conversation with mindless wandering.

Here's another one, What if a person had CIPA and was a sociopath. No feeling and no emotion. Also this person lets say is no use to anyone and is a leech on the system.

 

Because we're so complex, and we have so many feelings, one person might be compelled to kill that sociopathic person, and others may not. Also I don't think a person would be as willing to kill another person over a bug because they're both humans. Realistically, someone would kill a spider because of self-defense. That's the main reason why we kill mosquitoes and spiders etc. It's pretty much encoded into our DNA to defend ourselves against the spider.

That's my best answer.

 

Actually my outlook on insects is quite simple to just poison or gas insects is just wrong and moronic. Not only are insects effected so are other animals such as birds ,aquatic life, humans and many more. To swat and kill a insect that is buzzing around you is only a natural response, all animals do it. To kill insects in your home, while some may be against it I see no problem with people practicing this do to there is no possible way they are going to wipe out a species doing this.

behindthesun93 is correct insects do not feel pain as we do. Insects and other living creatures have evolved to be like this. In nature all living things eat other living things, evolution has enabled some species to feel next to nothing. If you look at an insect it is damn near the bottom of the food chain, there is a good chance it will get eaten swatted squished and so on.

 

P.E.T.A. is a ridiculous organization.

Where to start? Do I start with the movement to change the term "fish" to "sea kittens"? Do I start with the ineffective methods to deter fur coats?

Nah. How about this. Let's start with food options.

I personally am vegetarian. For health reasons. It's better for you if you balance it right.

However, advocating not eating animals at all...that's more inhumane than eating them. Domestic cows, pigs, chickens, turkeys...et cetera, would ALL go extinct if humans stopped farming them. They've been bred to be domestic-- without human protection, they're completely helpless.

If they're going to stand up for leaving all animals alive if it's up to humans (which is totally against the nature of our species), they have to stand up for all animals. Including insects, intestinal parasites and malaria.

P.E.T.A., while founded on a good idea ("Let's treat animals well") has gotten completely absurd. They've given all of us conservationists a bad name.

 

I kill parasites. Masquitoes to tapeworms. If they are threatening my life or the life of my pets. I will do away with them. I had a friend who almost died because she contracted west nile virus and cat scratch fever (yes it's a real virus) from a mosquitoe. I had a puppy that I rescued from the street that ended up dying a few days after I got it because it was so infested with worms. But I don't go and hunt them for sport. I kill them just as I would kill a bear that was killing someone (if that was the only choice of course).

 

if you were to let a pig out into the wild, it could very easily go back to its natural instincts... I was watching something about pigs on tv a while back, and they were talking about a pigs ability to survive.. wild or domestic. they're very smart and very similar to us.

why wouldnt a cow be able to live? the only thing we give them are food and water. But if they were wild, they could do the same thing for themselves. Is it that they are much more prone to diseases?

 

Me too, especially if they are very poisonous (Like Black Widows). I would only kill for defensive purposes.

 

PeTA euthanizes nearly all the adoptable animals in their care. i guess they are okay with killing animals.

 

No. Things eat cows other than people. Wolves, bears, all that. Couple that with the expanse of wilderness that we don't have to support ranges of cattle, and you're looking at a really fast decline in a species that's been bred to be dependent on people. Cows in California would straight up starve. Diary cows elsewhere would be hunted and live with a painful udder until they died. Beef cattle would starve.

Pigs might have a chance because, like you said, they're smart. But they've also been bred to take up little space by laying around and getting fat. It'd be an enormous impediment to do anything.

Chickens and turkeys would have similar problems as those of cattle.

By the way, these animals would also be going after farms farming plants, so they'd be killed to protect the produce. They wouldn't last three decades.

The only animals that would flourish if people stopped eating them are fish. Which, ironically, PETA doesn't care about too much. I mean, they're advocating calling them "sea kittens." What the hell. It makes me want to slap anyone using the term. Anyways, PETA's all pro-pescetarian, so it doesn't really matter.

PETA is an example of a group that needs to do it's research before it does stupid things. Greenpeace and Sea Shepherd are two others.

 

I think its perfectly fine to kill animals, even for sport. There are many circumstances in the world where 'management' of numbers is required in order to prevent a species becoming to dominant at the expense of another. Of course this could only be justified if it was conducted in a safe and humane way. As for eating, well we're human beings, meat has been part of our diets since the dawn of time, why stop now just because we have the capacity to do so. I would love to stick a few of you 'vegans' in the wild, i'd give you 3 days, tops.

 

Wildlife can manage itself perfectly fine. It's been doing it for billions of years and it will continue to do so until it's completely wiped off the face of the planet. The only "wildlife" that needs managing is humans. To say that hunters are important because they "manage" wildlife is ignorant-- it will manage itself perfectly fine without us. If a species should be going extinct because it's not as well adapted, who are we to stop it? Gods? No. All we can do is prevent ourselves from destroying more species if we decide to do so. To manage nature is the utmost hubris.

 

i kill spiders.

 

i kill spiders and dance on their tiny corpses. we get spiders like crazy out here. i kill every one i see. they bite the living crap outta my daughters i never used to have a problem with spiders until the huge, nasty, painful welts started.