Is it OK to kill certain animals?

I question my truths daily. I think we all do. Sorry if I came off pushy, I'm just saying that I don't believe in the killing or using of animals. If you do, do your thing. The question was asked what we think, and that is what I think.

I believe what you are saying about your personal experience. But you are also not being realistic about the impact that so much meat eating has on the planet. Literally there are people starving while we feed grain to cattle to fatten them up for us to eat. It's a cycle some of us choose not to be a part of.

I understand what you are trying to say. Do not pretend to be speaking to an infant.

Everyone is getting more and more sick these days for lots of reasons, but mainly degradation of the food supply.

Why is america obese? Lots of reasons. meat, sugars, unwilling to work out, slaves to the car, uncaring about their own flesh, in denial of their own power to change.

Sure you can eat meat and be healthy. I still think adhere to the belief that the body runs better on fruits, beans, nuts, roots, grains, etc. Non-animal products.

Yeah, I pick my bounty out of the grocery store at the moment, but I'm also set on working on an organic farm as soon as the chance opens up.

I'll agree to disagree with you on this one.

I don't eat from a packet that has a big tick on it saying it's "healthy". I eat fruits, vegetables, grains, roots, berries, all these things. Prepackaged is still processed.

We're not all sheep. In the same way you examine your beliefs deeply, so do I. I mean, you're on the animal advocacy sub-thread. It's ... uh... about animal advocacy. What do you want to hear? That it's ok to eat the flesh of animals? *shrug*

 

oh yes because animals work a full time job and have bills to pay. lol

wrong

 

As for the health-vegetarian issue,I can personally say I have noticed a HUGE difference in my health just from buying farm fresh meat,& not the shit grocery stores wanna sell you.I also hunt & fish to help feed my family,same reason I grow a garden.But back to the question at hand.I do beleive it's ok to kill animals for food.Sport,no,but food yes.we're poor.Don't get me wrong,I do enjoy the excitement of hunting,but I don't like taking a life.It's like asking a soldier if he likes killing people.Hell no,but when its what you have to do,you do it.But on the flipside,if our house was on fire,you bet your ass I would risk my life until all the pets were out.I'll be the first to pull over & move turtles out of the road.I love animals & would never harm one I don't intend to eat.Which is a common misconception,hunters are supposed to be all drunk bloodthirsty rednecks.sorry..back to the question..yes I do think it's ok to kill certain animals,as long as there is a valid reason behind it,& sport or fun doesn't fall into that category

 

As a vegetarian since 1970, I have grown to respect hunters who actually know where "meat" comes from - a once living being.

I was raised in a meat eating culture and even killed a few animals myself, and skinned them and cut them up. Also as a teenager I participated in the slaughter of a yearling - none of the men wanted to be the one to put the rifle to the forehead of that calf and pull the trigger, but one finally did (I was sweating that they would assign it to me).

Compassionate ppl do not want to kill animals, but do so for food. I can respect that.

 

Why do the cliche bonds of a citizen living in a capitalist society define humans equality to animals?

hmm..
I don't believe any one being deserves to die more than the other, but I do believe insects die often naturally. Millions of bugs die under our feet and we never know.

Does this make us bad people for killing insects?
No..., they just die at a higher frequency than other animals. There's no negativity to that, I think.

 

No, just careless.

I guess the crime would be "involuntary insectslaughter." (Insecticide has already been taken)

I have heard that the Jain religious sect in India wears a cover over their nose and mouth so that they do not accidentally breath in and kill insects.

 

To be fair, I an sure no one likes swallowing insects.

 

I don't know about that. I've eaten grasshopper legs, chocolate ants and scorpion. All pretty tasty!!!

As far as killing insects...it all depends on the particular bug. I will kill any roach that enters my home. Spiders and other non-harmful critters are captured and released outside.
Ticks, skeeters and the like IMO have no usefulness. During the warm seasons I spray my property with garlic juice to keep the skeeters away.
In the garden ladybugs and praying mantis are my best weapons against "garden killers" I do use a limited amount of organic and non-toxic insecticide.

I don't see how humankind could survive without combating certain critters.
It's a matter of not killing indiscriminately. I cringe every time I see an exterminator.
"KILL EM ALL AND LET GOD SORT IT OUT" must be their mantra.

Zen

 

If the "roach" is the American Palmetto Bug, (as opposed to those little nasty European roaches) you should give it the same consideration as spiders.

They do not belong in your house but do come in to eat book binding or any starchy substance. Outside they eat dead leaves and are a part of the eco system.

I always snatch them up and throw them out the door. Actually, I rescue them from terrified ppl about to make a big squish out of them.

 

Hunting for food I am more then fine with, hunting for sport... no.

Having said that though, would I rather hunt a free, wild animal, or raise a domestically bred animal to eat?

Definitely the raised animal.

At the bottom of my prefer list though, is factory farm food of any type whether that is animal or plant.

 

Why would you rather kill a raised animal? Convenience?
If so I don't blame you... hunting is very difficult when you're not using 235353 pieces of technology. I think it's supposed to be.

 

Nothing to do with convenience...

Given the choice, I would much rather take the life of a domestic animal that in all likelihood couldn't survive in the wild today due to the domestication over taking the life of a free animal that is currently living in the wild.

 

Well animals can be trained to be put back into the wild.
People do it all the time with wolves and lions.

With herbivores, it's even easier of a process.
Have you ever seen pigs or cows that get away from their farm?
They just chill, eat, and run from everything.

Pretty basic nature.

 

What does people returning wolves or lions (predator animals that few people eat), to the wild, have to do with whether or not someone would prefer to kill an already domesticated animal or a wild animal?

Does it make sense to try to train a domestic animal to return to the wild to replace something that is already living in the wild?

On one hand, you have an animal that has been force bred by humans for (in some cases) thousands of years, that LIKELY won't survive in the wild, on the other you have a FREE WILD animal that is living it's life naturally.

If you had to make a choice between killing two people, one who grew up and lived from the day they were born as a slave, or one who was born and lives free, which would you choose?

 

They are horrible little buggers; I never want to see one again in my life. They now make my heart stop when I see even a picture of them

 

I think it is foolish to believe one life is worth more than another.

 

I agree with you. I even agree that it's ok to kill cats or dogs or whatever..if it's like..in Japan (forgive me if I'm wrong there) where they eat cats and dogs like we eat cows and deer. I agree, also, that killing an animal just to kill it, or killing an animal that doesn't need to die....that's pointless, irresponsible, and cruel.

 

Sorry, but that makes no sense to me. Isn't that pretty much the same thing as saying it's alright to steal if you're poor and you need stuff, but it's not alright if you're rich?

 

your an animal. theirs no such thing as right and wrong. it was made up by your culture.
kill or be killed thats the code the tiger lives by

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc4h0qcAIpE"]YouTube- Kill or Be Killed

 

You are off-topic. The topic is the ethics of humans killing animals when it's not a matter of self-defense.