Is it ok for children to view child porn?

youd need a child photographer.....rare. a child model interested in nude modeling and parental consent rare. and a child interested in this. dunno how rare that is.but if all had parental consent n were down fer it , sure why not. but it should be destroyed afterwArds so no pervs would abuse the context.laws can never fully encompass the range of human needs.anyone who believes it can must be dim, dim like a broken lightbulb in my ass.the amazing SPHINCTO will now crush lightbulbs in his rectum. ide pay to see that, fuck that chewing glass shit.

 

Why would you want to help people who don't even want help? I very much doubt they want you to take away one of the only things that make them sexually aroused. You're trying to make them conform to our society, rather than cast them off and punish them. Personally, I don't want pedophiles or child molestors in my society, wheather they have been "cured" of thier "sickness" or not. They are scum and deserve to be imprisoned.

Thoughts and feelings is the first step to actions, and it's VERY easy to take the next step into ACTION. We shouldn't give these people the chance to even FEEL for thier ACTION. The thought and feeling is the when they actually FEEL like watching child porn, the action is when they actually do watch childporn. The next step is actually engaging in child porn. These people should be imprisoned for the initial feeling of wanting to watch child porn.

I hope that makes sense.

Oh, and as far as America turning into a Nazi state by making a feeling a crime, it more or less has already happened.

 

Ill respond to the rest in a second. But I wanna ask you a question that is on my mind because of that particular topic. I was raped and for a year I wanted to literally kill the person. Seriously. And Im afraid I would have. Luckily I did not know who it was because I was drugged, HOWEVER, the thoughts were there..... I have since come more to terms with the situation and I dont think I would kill the person if I could see him... still he wouldnt wanna be in my sight... haha...

So, should I be jailed for that thought crime? Since murder is obviously wrong.

 

amen.on fascist america.you know watching child porn is illegal thats an action allready tho.btw ive had the same porno on all night while i type foreplay lovemaking and climax . used to be suckin dick fuckin n cumshot. fer chapter menu. even porno is politickly correct.that or im a **** n just happend to choose sum dippy hippy porn.

 

So how do you know they dont want help? I can see where you are coming from to an extent (still think Im right, haha) but how do you know they dont WANT help or want to change... seems you are making assumptions there.

They should be imprisoned for their ignitial THOUGHT of wanting to WATCH child porn? Why? I understand thoughts lead to actions.... you think about cheating or killing, stealing, whatever BEFORE you do it BUT everyone thinks about things that they dont DO. EVERYONE.

You never wanted to do something that was fundamentally "wrong"? (ask yourself that honestly)

In fact, most people think about things that in reality they would never do.

It really is kinda scary. This thought thing.

Maybe what COULD be done is people stepping up and if they have a family member or friend that they suspect has a "thought problem" urging them to get help in a way that they can respond to because I do believe these people need HELP. However, I would never believe that people should be locked up or hurt for "thought crimes".

 

No, because that thought occured due to the event of another horrific action.

 

But still, murder is wrong.

What is to say those people didnt have those thoughts because a traumatic event?

Im not trying to stand up for them... im just trying to make you think.

 

I was actually commenting on the thought to become involved in child porn, from the action of actually viewing child porn...Not the thought to watch child porn...If that makes sense.

 

Yeah, it does. Thanks for the clarification.

 

Yes, I did think of that, and the only conclusion was to treat it early if you can and before the action happens, but the truth is most pedophiles are recluse. They arn't willingly going to come out and say "I NEED HELP!".

 

So THAT IS the difference between a thought and an act.

A thought can have a remedy. An act, is much different.

 

so with this logic - then a person who was raped as a kid, grows up and has thoughts of forcing himself onto a child - would you still want to punish him?

his life was messed up by a horrific action and now thinks its ok to do the same horrific action. his thoughts were brought on by an event in the past.

this is just one of many flaws in making thoughts punishable - a very slippery slope.

 

Okay, I can't think of anything to counter that...I'm stumped.

 

Try

"Because he actually ACTED, even though he was abused himself, he didnt act against the perpetrator, therefore, his weakness/regrence was passing on hate to a truly innocent party, not... wanting to kill YOUR aggresor/abuser"

However, I still believe in reform, after punishment!!!, for ACTS.

 

I agree with reform, but not punishing people who view child pornography is ignorant, in my opinion. They need a heavy punishment and heavier reform in a rehab. Giving reform without punishment is more like being sympathetic for them.

 

Yah. Gotcha.

But no one is perfect- want someone to come into your house, read your thoughts and judge you for whatever they dont think is right?

Things you havent DONE but thought about... no victims....

Its a touchy subject, I know....

But the thought of people being punishised in reality for things that in reality didnt happen is horrifying to me.

 

My neighbour was sodomizing and molesting his daughter in 2006. The police raided his house and locked him up. He's currently under police protection. I've only been living here for about 8 months! I knew he was a weirdo and often wonder want went on when I saw him going into his flat holding her hand on Tuesdays...


I found out that apparently he was molested by his father along with all of his brothers and sisters. He used to set fire to people as a result of this and did time for it.

But they let him out and classed him as reformed and now an innocent child has been damaged internally and mentally.

When I found out about his past I didn't feel any hatred towards him because his mind was obviously fucked beyond recognition.

He shouldn't have been let out into society with those psychological problems. The consequences were disastrous and irreversible.

You might tell me that it wasn't his fault because of his past but what about the victims? I think people like that should be kept in institutions were they can't harm anyone else. It might seem unfair but we have to break eggs if we want an omelette.

 

yes, its wrong for people to do the ACT - even after being a victim when they were younger. that should be punishable and more treatment is needed for that person. the victim also needs to be helped.

my point was that merely the thought of doing it - not acting on the thoughts, just the thoughts alone should not be punishable - once you start doing that, punishing people for thoughts, thats when things start to snowball and eventually society will be no more

 

Yep, I have the same thoughts as Fitzy on the topic...

A person with THOUGHTS should maybe get help but they shouldnt punished..for a while there it seemed thoughts were on trial.

If a person acts, even if they themselves were molested or othewise sexually abused (and they probably were), then they ARE responsible for their actions.

They should have a punishment.

The questions lies therein... do they get punished for life or allowed reform and a change to be forgiven - aka go back into society...?

Well that is why the court system, flawed as it is, works as best it really can in MOST CASES. Its designed for that.

 

Yeah it was probably me that didn't explain myself properly.. No one can be punished for having thoughts, that would be ridiculous. I think the law is too soft on violent crime. You can do more time for burglary than rape in the UK. How can a TV be more important than rape? It blows my mind. People are getting lighter sentences or being let off completely because the prisons are full. It all seems to be going to the dogs.. I'm sounding so old right now LOL. Wow, I'm going to buy myself a grandad hat :tongue: