I think people are failing to realise that watching child pornography may not be as bad as molestation, but it is not in anyway less of a sickening crime. We should not excuse them simply because they didn't molest a child, nor should we have sympathy on them because they didn't choose to be like that.
The slave trade is more prevalent now than ever before,including the sale and imprisonment of children for labor, prostitution and as killers in wars.The criminals who commit these crimes in addition to pedophiles should treated as rabid dogs-menaces to civilized society.Never happen tho.
Happens alot, I have seen it alot myself... Most of the posters on this forum, being Americans, are defenatly not aware of that... but 200 years ago, this would also happen here... so to that they can relate.
Yet again... I can just as easily say... I think people are failing to realise that watching gay pornography may not be as bad as engaging in homosexual activity, but it is not in anyway less of a sickening crime. We should not excuse them simply because they didn't have gay sex, nor should we have sympathy on them because they didn't choose to be like that. Using your logic, would I be wrong?
I don't know anyone with this fetish but you talk like you know for a FACT that it is simply a mental disorder that needs treatment and not punishment. Men have been taking advantage of young children long before I was born and infact still do today in some countries as was stated by BraveSirRubin and Skip. I would reject my relatives if I knew they enjoyed little children. In fact I would want them to be culled. Thats just my opinion on people that have nothing to do with me and you. With that in mind why do you stand up for them? But as you say it's PEOPLE LIKE ME that are the problem.. not the 'chicken hawk' pedo rings that operate worldwide. K.. I'm the sick one. Long live the fucking pedo rings, Yay! Let them all run riot! It's not their fault that their inhumane. :H Ok, do you think the terrorists that killed all of those people on 9/11 were in control of their minds or were they 'mentally ill'? EVERY crime is caused by what you class as a mental disorder. If this is the case then no one is guilty and every criminal should be reformed without punishment. Is that really what you think? I mean seriously? OMF word. At what point should an offender be stripped of their human rights for being a menace to society? Lets just write every criminal off as having a mental disorder. Let me put it like this.. If I decided to do a crime that gave me gain (be it sexual, financial or for revenge etc) then I'm going on animal instinct and acting like a common wild dog. Am I guilty or did I have a mental disorder at the time? If I had a tumour in my brain that altered my behaviour then thats different. EDIT: I've deleted half of this shit... I'm just talking out of my ass cause I'm drinking beer. I'm making no sense. Libertine, you win this arguement hands down. I will shut the fuck up now
Dude, an ACT is different than a THOUGHT. That's my whole fucking point. And people can't help what they sometimes THINK. They can, however, help how they act.
What would you like to see happen to those organised pedo rings that are running riot in our society preying on minors?
It just baffles me why you're acting as if we should let pedophiles into our society, because they "can't help it"? At the moment there's a pedophile in Wales who got arrested for downloading child pornography; he got off free and without a prison sentance. Would you actually agree with that, because it's only his thoughts and not his actions?
Yes... all he's doing is looking at some child porn... he's not the one distributing or creating the child porn. He himself is not hurting anybody. he should not get a sentence.
yes, actually i would... and have. my black history teacher, a few others, and I, fought for the right for the KKK to assemble in my town, when their assembly was trying to be blocked. we all hate the KKK and what they stand for.... but we love freedom of thought, and speech more. IMO, its wrong to pick and choose to prosecute, ban, or censor things we don't want to hear, or know about. if censorship was deemed on an open forum of thoughts and speech, then yes i would defend it to the fullest. no matter what the thought!
i agree with most of your other posts on the subject, other than this one. the child porn creators would not create the porn if there was no audience to present it too. so, IMO, the viewers are hurting the children by creating a market. this is different from freedom of thought and speech.... it goes beyond into an dark grey catagory.
I completely agree with you Willy. Same reason that it is moronic to blame poor farmers growing coca for the cocaine problem in the US. People are always quick to blame the business people... but the consumer is just as much to blame.
I think it is unhealthy for children to view ANY porn, God knows i wish i hadnt seen porn when i was young. Regardless of my first point, if in some wacked out way you could view it as healthy it would still be wrong to hurt children so other children have porn. P.S. sorry if this has been stated i didnt read the replies i just felt it was such an off question that the bottom line had to be pointed out.
This is skewed logic. There is a market for everything in this world. It's like saying that violence on TV is wrong because it is creating a cause for war, or like saying that smoking ciggs is wrong because it's creating a market for corrupt buisnessmen.
Is it wrong for animals to view animal porn? No it's not okay. Not because of the age thing, because any child in child pornography is exploited, and it is rape. So child pornography is wrong to exist, not to view.
i'd say define what you mean by ok or not ok. as an adult there's all kinds of trouble we can get into by facilitating anyone under the age of making legal contracts enjoying it. but there wouldn't be a DAMD THING intrinsicly wrong with it otherwise. what's wrong is the fanatacism written into the law against it, that and that such a large percentage of it is so lame, cleche'd, repititious and unimmaginative, and so assinignly exploitively expensive, a lot of it too. that's the only part that's in any way wrong with or about it. =^^= .../\...
child porn disgusts me. Theory aside. I realise some kids get these feelings at different ages...but NEVER is a child ready to be exploited sexually. You may have mild feelings age 8...you do NOT wish to have full-on sex wthan adult, your sexual organs are not ready to name just one reason why Im an extremely open-minded person...but when it comes to children (im talking really below about 14-15ish, because after that it gets blurry) and sex theres no question...LEAVE THEM THE HELL OUT OF IT Childhood just isnt about sex...ive known a person very deeply who truly sincerely believed that sex with newborn babies, toddlers and children was OKAY (poor lost soul) and he was fucked in the head...really, you DO NOT want to go down that path Kids discover these things gradually, in their own time, and do not need to be exposed to sickness so early Thanx
How can you theorise about CHILDREN and SEXUAL ACTS? Sure i agree there comes a point, usually during and after puberty, where the lines get extremely blurred...but a CHILD is a CHILD, and child porn is RAPE, CORRUPTION and in many cases a LIFE RUINED Above i spoke about a man i knew once...he was raped by a stranger age 11. He now believes forcing innocent children into sexual acts is ok and is a sexual obsessive...and thats NOT a life ruined?
prejudice and arbitrary assumptions disgust me, beliefs and familiarity of them, aside! especialy asinignly backward headed ones like how it's supposed to be harmful for children to explore. exploring is what childhood is for. that is where adults come from. the thisledown of fanatacism is why there are so many adult age, not honestly humble and child like in that sense, but adamantly brainless and anti-any sort of good sense, so called 'adults'. THAT is the REAL evil and abuse. exactly the opposite of what such fanatacisms keep trying to pretend is any sort of immorality. =^^= .../\...