is it just a dream?

dear druid,


i also like your dream, living in the woods planting some food and so on. A lot of people allready said it, you need money to buy some place to make something like this on.

I was thinking while i was reading your post, there is land for sale without woods on it but there used to be wood if it stayed natural. I think this places are cool to live on, make it natural again. Just start with building your ecological house, and use the land that you need for food. But the rest of the land you can just let go into wilderness... maybe you can plant some trees or stuff that used to grow there or grow in the direct neighbourhood. I think this are the things of permaculture, i like that way of thinking. Just use what you need and let the rest be it's natural way again.

If you focus on buying a piece of woods, i think that is more expensive. but i don't know much about that really..

well, i hope i helped you a little bit.

 

Sadly I have to agree with lot of the above posters about the money. Most successful communities are built on pretty expensive land.
In the old days when you could homestead it was about hard work and determination but now days it takes a lot of money. I just takes $ for good land and buildings, you can buy a $2000.00 acre and build a house out of pallets and mud but you are going to be a poor miserable soul in a wasteland.

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Hi all

Especially you Old Wolf.
I have been gone for 2 1/2 years travelling Europe, Asia, South America and the last 9 months the good old USA. My goal was to see how people of the earth lived around the world. Don't think I have a lot of money, I just got tired of Corporate America and decided it was time to get out before I went stir crazy.
I have seen many wonders around the globe and finally realized there are many cultures around the world that live as we all talk about in this forum.
I have seen the wonders and horrors of Europe especially in places like Bosnia, slovia, and the Balkans. I quickly realized that part of the world needs lots of love but they trive on hatreds that go back hundreds of years.
I live in many villages in SouthEast Asia. There the people live simply and the sense of family was very strong but in that part of the world, there is always somebody stronger and meaner trying to enslave the simple folks simply to make themselves richer and stronger. The Asians were wonderful people who gave this stranger food and water and warmth and a sense of tranquility that was most welcomed. If left alone by the warmongers, the villagers would live a wonderful and fruitful life but unfortunately that does not happen for a very long period.
It was in the jungles of South America where I found the closest to what we talk about and dream about in this forum. The Indians that live in the Amazon are true believer in living in Harmony with the land, family life, and the entire tribe working for the betterment of all. They taught me many wonderful skills such as how to find food anywhere, how to make all you would need from the bounties Mother Nature gave to all of us, how to life in peace and harmony with all, how to help each other with out expecting any thing back in return, how to have fun and laugh with each other and how to love each other irregardless of your color or nationality. They adopted me as one of their own and I and they never regretted it for a moment. I was truely happy there. I spent a year with them and then I decided to come back to the US to see if I could help spread all they taught me about love, respect of the land and each other and how to live with Mother Nature in harmony.
After I returned, I travelled around the US, mostly out West and visited many new and old communes. Most I was dissappointed with. I did not feel the love and harmony I had experienced in the Jungles of South America. I am sure there are a lot of people that feel like I do now out there but finding them is the real work just like Old Wolf has said many times. Don't get me wrong, the tribes I was with were wonderful but it wasn't all fun and games. It took a lot of work to get where they are at and that is what it takes to build the ideal commune.
One day I would like to meet some of the old timers here such as Old Wolf and I probably will. I have met and spoken to many of the old timers here and all the newbies and even many of the older people should listen to the wise words these people try to pass on to you. Rebember they have been around a long time and they have been living the life they chose for themselves. They know what they are talking about.
As for me, I will continue to travel this wonderful country we call America. I may not be part of Corporate America anymore and that is by my choice but I have to tell you, this has been the happiest 2 1/2 years if my long life. I will travel till I find that special place we all are looking for.

I will check in once in a while. I love to read Old Wolf especially when he really lets go and says it all. He calls it ranting, I call it experience. One day I will show up with a cup of Kava, all natural but man, it leaves you smooth and joyfull.

Love to all

Avgreg also known as Moose

 

Kudos to you man....follow your visions lest they leave you....so important !

Door's ever open to you...as you know.....

Traveled down that Way before as night stalker....had to be salvaged by those same wonderful people you speak of.....alas only in dream and spirit as yet.....promises to be kept and met ...almost done....we all carry on and Grow.

Blessings Be with you along the Way...O the wonderful lessons we be so privelidged to partake in.

Namaste

 

Is that why the murder rate is one of the highest in the world?
A tribe has to kidnap and rape woman to keep from being inbred?
Pillaging neighbor is a common form of entertainment, employment and wife seeking.
Yes, very harmonious

 

ah gobot....you should not be so quick to judge...especially when your facts are not correct....too bad people believe without really checking the veracity of their source....but then of course you know from first hand information or by a truthful source with no agenda to put these people in a bad light...and of course it was not from a movie created only in another's mind...No ? heheh

I also do not have my own personal experience with these people you so quickly malign, and from past experience of the writer who you quote, have no reason to believe he would pass on such erroneous information ...as i Believe you do.

Please quote your sources for such bad publicity.

Thank you....

have a wonderful life,,,,may you reap what you sow...and so, sow love.

Blessings Be the Lessons we Learn along the Way

Namaste (my Spirit bows to your Spirit)

 

Thanks, Old Wolf. I expected uneducated responses like that so I am not surprised. I won't bother to lower myself to his level and get into a writing war with gobot. It would be a waste of my time and energy. When he goes and spends time with these wonderful people as I have, then I will be happy to hear his comments. Till then, to me, it is just useless words coming out of an unexperienced mouth.

 

You guys make a lot of assumptions, probably based on your big egos and high views of yourselves.
Avgreg I would feel very confidant in saying I have spent more time in South America them you have.
Things look nice and peaceful when you are a tourist with money and there a short time. Try living there for a year or two and see how things change, and try reading a few anthropology and history books instead of new age tourist stuff.
If you start telling young hippies it is cool and safe to wander down the Amazon River and go find Indians and they will treat you like family a lot of naive gringos are going to be in for a nasty surprise.
The Amazon Basin is a hard climate and a hard life you are spreading a delusion with your flaky utopia reports. Just another Road to Eldorado report but instead of gold or profit it is a false dream of peace and harmony.
Don’t you think it would be over populated with people if it were that nice and harmony. All those young people in the 60s and 70s and all those pioneers in the early 1900s that spend decades looking for it just didn’t look hard enough? Everyone has over looked it until you discovered it.
Talk about uneducated.