Is good rock dieing?

Um.....







wtf?

 

Dude, grunge really wasn't that good.

 

Buuuuuuuuuut, that's my opinion. I'm not saying I'm right

 

...I agree completely....

I said that Nirvana was overrated in my other post that you quoted...and just about everything that you said, I said...but you made it sound like you were arguing with me....


gah.....

 

Perhaps music moves in cycles throughout history?

We wouldn't have been able to see it yet because the music industry in its modern form is a young industry, but turn the clock back 50 years...

...you see a lot of acts that by today's standards would have been described as 'manufactured'. Boy/girl groups comprised entirely of vocalists, backed by session musicians and performing the works of professional songwriters. Early 60s, along came the Beatles and the face of the industry changed for a considerable period of time, everyone played their own instruments and wrote their own tunes.

I think another musical revolution will happen. It may not be on the cards just yet, but it has to happen sooner or later. It's that thought that keeps me going and keeps me playing.

Anyone concur?

 

Well good rock is still made. Its just undergorund. Hasent it allways?(excpet in the 60s, music was just to good to ignor then.)How ever it is more under the ground than ever.This is mainly because of MTV. Down with MTV. Just look into more indie stuff.

 

Sorry, I was arguing with the person you had said that to. Just this year I've found that there's decent underground rap and I got all excited to spit out my limited knowledge of it!

 

for me most modern popular music is just about playing bloody rhythm guitar, thats all it seems to be, and wheres the skill in that? whether its a local band or a well known one they always just seem to strum along and every one thinks their amazing, i like melody in music, but i don't see that today, anyone agree?

 

Ah, it all makes sense now. xD

 

As far as I'm concerned, in this area, good rock is comatose. But that's taking into consideration that the only "rock" station we've got plays the same like 5 songs for months on end and kills them. I actually liked a lot of newer bands until good ol' Rock 108 murdered them. I seriously want to severely injure their DJ's and programmers...morons...Though I am sure there's still hope elsewhere.

 

I think Oasis is one of the best bands out there. I'm also listening to old rockabilly tunes so i don't give a shit about the new stuff. I'd say The Hives, The Strokes and Jet are good bands though. It's all a matter of opinion. One man's junk is another man's treasure!

 

Well,i don't think the ROCK is dying.

But i think the best rock,is the 60's rock. The Who,Pink Floyd,Rolling Stones,and Beatles (L),were really great bands,and i can't see any band as good as they were today. They changed and created many things,so it's impossible to look to all this bands(or singers) that a lot of people loves like Linkin Park,Blink 182,Britney Spears and don't think "God,what are they doing with music? what are they calling rock now?". Because to me,music is not just a sound,music must have feeling too. And you know, most of the famous band are just interested in get money,they sing what sells.

Fortunately,i've heard many good bands,like Libertines,Franz Ferdinand,Strokes,Killers,Belle & Sebastian. And i really think that their music is fine,and it's rock. It isn't like the old rock,but well,it's better than nothing.
And recently i'm listening some metal bands,they play folk metal,and i'm liking.

I'm not closing my eyes to the actual music,because we have great bands and singers now,like kid abelha,skank,caetano,jota quest (that's all brazilian music) but i'll never forget the greatest bands,the progressive and psichedelic rock,because they aren't dead,and they will never die,so you can see that they influence people until today.

 

Some people just don't believe in evolution

 

Can it still be called evolution if something gets poorer?

I'm a music student and was once chastised for slating the Opera Babes (I don't think the Americans have had to deal with these, I described them as 'lamentable') in an exam question, and told not to slip value judgements on music. So I make a conscious effort to accept music on its merits and try not to apply my own standards to something that could still be seen as artistically valid by someone else, whether it is absolute crap or not.

Nevertheless in my own opinion 'authentic' music (read unmanufactured) is inferior today. I guess it can be attributed to various factors such as the growth of the music industry from a fringe industry in the 60s to something more global over the ensuing decades, which puts more emphasis on creating a product to be sold to as many people as possible and thus fails to cater for more discerning, 'cult' tastes.

It is difficult to find bands that really push boundaries these days in the way many bands of 30-40 years ago did, but they are still out there. Basically the modern music industry won't back them without some degree of watering-down of their non-commercial aspects, and so we have to do a little detective work in order to find them. Currently the music industry is very much fixated on short-lived trends and fashions - we only need to read any music publication such as NME to see that reviewers do not assess music on its merits anymore, but instead hype to the max anything that is fashionable, denigrating great music as they go because it is not presented in the style of the day.

 

I agree that good rock isn't as "out there" anymore.

But, I do enjoy several artists of the modern era.

TORI AMOS, FIONA APPLE, EDWIN McCAIN, DAVE MATTHEWS, THE WHITE STRIPES, SUPERGRASS, and some DREAM THEATER and PORCUPINE TREE.

I have turned away from DT and PT a little lately though because they seem to be shedding their unique style to sound more and more like the CREED/NICKELBACK corporate rock sound just to have a "hit".

I really respect bands like Zeppelin and Floyd because they said, "To hell with your singles, we will make albums" and they did! And they are the great bands up there with the singles warriors (Stones & Beatles).

THE UNDERGROUND WILL NEVER DIE!

 

music still means a lot to the youth of today, look to scenes like hip hop. offcourse it is something completely different than the hippie scene, but as a youthscene it means the same to the people who decided to join in.
back in the sixties the whole underground thing was new and that's why it was so big i think... in the sixties there was a lot of commercialism and that didn't survived (luckilly). I think the biggest names of these days will be remembered and the more easey-listening shit will fall away, just like in the past.
and it's already said, there still is good music out there, but it won't be the same as back then, because the sixties are unique. for the better you need to surge for it in anyway you can and i'm liking that al lot
if you really love music that much you should play it and go out there, spread the word you know, i intend to do it......

peace

 

i don't think people will ever stop listening to the good stuff. i listen to it from my rents who grew up with it and everyone like me will be sure to pass it on to their kids. and even the ones who weren't introduced to the great stuff by their rents might hopefully realize that most of the stuff these days has really no talent and maybe they'll search for the bands that really could play and really did write songs with their entire heart and soul. that's all we can hope for. i'll never stop loving that stuff and i try my best to get my buds into it to or at least get them to recognize how great these bands were. hopefully, people know what great music really is. even if great music isn't being played by the bands anymore, i don't think the records will ever stop playing. there will always be people who know good music.

 

Great music is still being played by bands.

 

yeah, but i'm just saying, even when the good old stuff is gone there will be tribute bands or other bands influenced by the music and people will still play the records and such.

 

Don't Let The Music Die.