Is good rock dieing?

most music isnt horrible......i take that back. Green Day isn't as bad as they could be. they used to be better but they aren't too cad. but all this emo shit really badly needs to go. bunch of fucking guys who think life is so horrible at age 19. the only reason life really badly sucks in high school is when your bored out of your fucking mind for 3 weeks straight. but thats no excuse to write complaining songs. i think the high time of rock ended after the grunge revolution ended shortly after Cobain's death.thats when rap got real real popular. thats what is next. I think rock has had its time. 40 years, from 63-94. and sadly i think its raps turn. damn, why was i born at the end of rock's empire?

 

Three Words... The Mars Volts

 

Like I said...music isn't really dying. It's just not being put out there.

 

hahaha i fucked that up the mats voltA

 

man i gotta lay off the weed when i make posts marRS volTA

 

And it's just my personal opinion.....but so many people bitch and whine about music being so shitty. I think those people shut either shut the fuck up or pick up their instruments and play and change all that. I'm too young but at least I'm willing to try and give it a go.

 

Yes but i think that rock is dead before the grunge... the grunge just try the electrochoc therapy to a body already dead... and it don't works...

There's different dates when rock is dead ...it don't happen specially when Corbain is dead...
Corbain dead was important in rock n roll decline...but there's other dates

63 as you said the british invasion started with The Beatles , The Dave Clark Five, The Hollies and other liverpool bands followed in 64 by London more bluesy and brutal style... the rolling stones, the pretty things, the animals (from Newcastle) etc... and in 64-66 by Mods bands...with the Small Faces, The Who , Creation, Action, The Kinks...etc... then the Acid came into the party and the American bands answer to The English Boom (who became the english kaleidoscopic x-plosion)... and the rivality started ...

So it started in 63 but 76/77 was probably the 1st death of rock n roll... the great age was gone...too much cocaine...desillusion (of the hippie hopes and music and style of life)...and the disco came...then nearly at the same time in reaction of the big oil crisis (then work crisis) of 76 punk crush most of the survivors of late 60's rock ...ironicly the Punks just lasted just 2 or 3 years...


When Punk arrive Rock n roll was revitalized in another direction ...more brutal alcoholic and pulsional and probably less artisticly oriented...

The punk and the hard rock take muscle with fresh band ... but those hard rock bands were (from 78 to 82) still a little in the underground and still influenced by old 70's good old records...

But Punks revolution was just short ...their fast autodestrction was becomin' reality ...punk was more or less dead by 1980 even if a lot of bands evolve in other direction while other disappear(burn fast)... and old 60's/ 70s dinosaurs often split their bands or for the others often recording less inspired records than a few years back ... their young and fresh spirit was often only a souvenir... (for ex...just look at Led Zep last album, Emotional Rescue by the Stones, or early 80's Rainbow albums etc...)

So this lasted just a few years and rock n roll by 82-83 make is 2nd death rock evolve one more time... Ronald Regan enter the white house in december 1980 .... a wave of patriots were back to reprezent the nation... rebels and people who belive in idealisme or community way of life was the opposite of Regean politics... commercial radios take even more the power... MTV is born in 81 and slowly the music became more and more a question of image/pictures... "If you got a melodic stupid song with multicolored t-shirts and an ego-star to front all that...in the 80's it surely became a Hit-single"

New hard rockers by 82-83 take another direction away from their previous more punk influenced sound... and built their lookatme guitar solo...
and were horribly dressed... (even if even in the 80s somerock bands were goods but nearly ever in the underground scene)

And the last dinosaurs who survived with honour after the late 70's punk wave...often disapear completely in horrible production albums...and all that mid 80's shit...

From 89-91 ...rock n roll was gently back (The Stones were back with some good new songs, Jane's Addiction, Guns n Roses, REM, U2 good Achtung Baby LP, The Stone Roses...etc) ...all with less horrible productions and a little better albums... but mostly the things were not so good

Then Nirvana and Pearl Jam join the Party ...they really change something...
In fact Grunge was horrible for Hard Rockers... suddenly the late 80's stars of hard rock were just ridiculous when Grunge rocker arrive...
They pretend to reprezent the rebels... so when Nirvana and the grunge became popular... 80's stupidblondhaircut became ridiculous...they were over...grunge was the new and fresh rebellion with Soundgarden, Stone Temple Pilots, Smashing Pumpkins, Alice In Chains joinin the movement...

But Cobain death in april94 reprezent as said in the previous post "Mr Morisson" a new death for Rock n roll ...

But well... i you look closely you can see that Oasis just break with their 1st album just at the same time that Cobain commit suicide... rock was not really dead... The young who loved rock just search somebody new to reprezent them ...less tragic and mentaly fragile than (Nirvana and) Kurt Cobain...

The flag of rock n roll once again cross the Atlantic ocean and from 95 to 98 The Brit pop movment lead rock n roll with some bad and good hit singles or bands (oasis, cast, blur, kula shaker, suede, Ocean colour scene etc...)

But the movement slowly came to an end with less commercial success of bands ...with the most part of those brit bands too much in cocaine and heroine for others... it destroy their inspiration...


So it was the story of rock n roll decline... It's supposed to be back when the Strokes released their 1st album in September 2001...

but this movement is not really one... it's built by the media (as always but even more now)... there still good bands ...but they lack musical vision and adventure music and often sound the same (garage rocker new waver)

Yep probably that rock is back... but the trace of their step in the sand (of this movement born in the begining of the new millenium) is just not deep enough...

a strong wave of the ocean will kill it easily ... and the trace of step in the sand will appear another year on another place on another beach...and i hope it deeper

thanx for your patience


NB : my date of rock n roll death (check the song "slow death" by the flamin' grovies...1973)

1: 76-77

2: 82-83

3: (less important)1994

 

Which is why we artists need to make a blueprint upon that time period.

 

And you're an asshole, who doesn't know how to use punctuation and doesn't know how to respect other people's opinions.

"your a moron" just isnt a valid argument.

 

My ears are screaming, the blisters on my fingers are burning, my hand is bleeding...
but for 3 hours straight we rocked!
Yeah feels pretty much alive

lost a string on my bass, and that thing could carrie an elavator:H

 

maybe if you actually read my previous posts you would be able to say something worth reading.

 

i'm happy that rock n roll still runnin' fast in some people'veins
just hope that you can control the volume...a hand can bleed...but the ears...

 

yeah i know, i really should get some ear pieces, but i'm a pure ist, i'm just so afraid i might mis a frequancy, and music should be apretiated as a whole.
but i worry about my ears sometimes, along with fingers, ears are an artist most precios assits

but we just seem to keep going up in volume
for me personally it doesn't have to be loud to be good, but this other gitarist in my band, just keeps krankin it up.

 

some think that if you play louder it makes u even more rock n roller... lol... i mean i talk 'bout some who love metal music... but well you can listen loud dylan and bleed too...

did u heard Townshend (Who) had great problems with his ears... so are you ready to play acoustic rock ?... if it's the price to pay !? :sunglasse

 

oh yeah, Pete Townshend is my greatst hero! he's the only person who can truly tell what Rock & Roll is about. He's the rock Pope:sunglasse
and did you know that the mean reason for his hearing problems was the reason Kieth Moon bought one of the stagehands to Tripple the explosives in his drum kit...
well pete was standing right in front of him when he popped, his hair was burned and his ear...well you know, and this was in the early '60s so thank the gods it's didn't have a huge impact on his musical carreer!
plus i read somewhere that he maniged to save his hearing some how.

But the fact is, The Who IS the loudest band around, that's a fact people! they hold the world record.
so if you think Slayer is rough? think again:H

Rock on!
peace

 

First of all, Jim Morrison sucked.

Second, just like every other dumbass on here who says "All this emo shit needs to go" you've probably never heard real emo, and you assume that bands like My Chemical Romance and all that other horrible, unlistenable, shit is emo.

Third, Nirvana wasn't really THAT great. Sure they had some alright songs, blah blah blah, but they're highly overrated...

...and finally, not all rap sucks, and if you're that closed minded then you don't deserve to have an opinion.

 

it's good music if thers some meaning to it, not like all these pop tunes
it really doesn't mather rather is Rock or Emo Or Ska Or Hip-hop, there are band with a messege in all these ganres, that's still the beauty of the medium Music
that's real music, and it can be about anything

so that means it can also be about the nightmare of beeing dropped off by your moms in her SUV at the recording studio, and you got peanutbutter and jellyagain on your lunch, oh the horror:X

that's kinda how i picture bands like linkin park and most emo bands

 

yep the who are one of the loudest... 70's Black sabbath is loud too... early 70's Deep Purple is loud too...it's really difficult to say which band play louder...GrandFunkRailroad early70's are loud 2... and it depends too of thevolume of their live performance.... Mountain , Cactus or Humble Pie (Rock On!) are in the loud club 2...yep 2...there's2muchloudbands!

 

Good rock will never die. It's just become stagnant.


Everyone is liberal.
Everyone is punk or or half-assed retro-revival.
Everyone is male.
Everyone is singing about the same stuff (love & sex & liberal politics) over and over again!


Time for a change, and not the kind of change most people could foresee.

 

Grunge wasn't really that good. It was a phad involving a lot of guys from Seattle wearing plaid shirts making mediocre music. Nirvana was and is one of the most overatted bands of all time. Kurt Cobain was a shitty guitar player, he couldn't sing in tune,and his lyrics were okay at best.

It's also SO incredible how you all trash emo when...uuuhh, Kurt Cobain contantly sung about how his life sucked. Smells Like Teen Spirit was no different, it was the early 90's version of emo when you think about it.

And it is arrogant of you to deem all rap "shit." Do I hate rap, yeah, I'd say most of it, but there's some good stuff out there, like the Streets, Aesop Rock, MF Doom, Mad Villain, The Last Emperor, etc.