is God Still Dead?

Yes, I can define reality for myself but the question was how do you define it or are you not listening or perceiving?

You accuse me of misquoting you! I quoted you twice. Here is my post:

“Au contraire!
First you don’t define your terms, such as how do you define reality?

Next, you make statements without support, such as; I believe this universe is directed, and then use the unsupported statement; The universe is but a facet of reality, to back it up.

Thus as they say; your post doesn’t hold water!”

Please note I high lighted the two quotes and please note above in your post the two high lighted texts. You will see that I just copied and pasted your comments into my post and thus did not misquote you!

Please also note that when you said; “I must explain how.” This expression immediately follows the expression; “as i believe this universe is directed.” In common English usage this indicates that what follows is proof of the preceding statement thus making:
“1. The universe is but a facet of reality..
2. Reality has always existed.”
An attempt at a proof or at least an explanation of what went before! If this is not the case please forgive me for thinking you that you had a grasp of the English Language.

As for the rest of what you say, you continue to basically say; what I say is true because, well because I said it. I’m sorry but I need a little more proof than that!

 

You still have not pointed out one error in what i say.
You seem glued to discrediting my way of saying it.

“Au contraire!" Whats with the french.. sounds like you are smart..
NO
Sounds like you are a sicophant. "vous êtes un idiot"

If you were 'here' no doubt you would phisically assault me..
And i would be forced to break your bones.

Thank god i will never meet you .. tard.
Occam

 

Do you try to resolve all your "intelligent" discussions with verbal or physical violence?

 

Check other thread for reply...

It is very hard form me to make posts like i have been...
But empirical experience has shown that that type of post cuts the weeds.
I HAte it that such is needed.. But stupidity is RAMPANT. And the stupid are RESPONSIBLE for their condition.. Not me.
A primer forum is needed.

How stupid do you have to be to post on a philosophy site and yet not be able to spell philosophy.
Or say..'Plato' 'Constantine' 'Aristotle' 'Hume' .. "who was he"
Or "are shown by men flying in the air that men can fly.
For they cannot grasp an idea as truth even if it poked out
their left eye."

Arrogance?.. No, i cry.. This IS our condition.
If only it were not so. This world would be a true eden.

Occam

 

That's not a way to answer questions.

 

True.. but answering questions is the responsibillity of the questioner
the origin post said

Which is plain rubbish. Does a
rock not exist because none have perceived it..lol...case closed.
Relaity has hundred indicative proofs of a designer.
And all the naysayers have is.. random chance resulted in kants
'critique of pure reason'
Yeh and 10 dice were thrown 1billion times and all came up 6

How should one answer.?

Occam

ps. as to answering questions by oldwater.. he has yet to ask one
worth answering.

 

OWB has yet to ask a question, worthy or not.

 

Ask away old chap.. I'm but 50 so you have the lead.
When you can remember when gilligans island was a 'new show'
You know your a 'rock of continuity'

occam

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by ESRUOS ENO
cheap imitation entertainment like rubber dicks and viginas..

nice to be of service to you.

 

lol

Well said eno.

Funny how many think science has resolved the question.
WHY
It has not. It's but a more efficient way in physicallity of finding out.
And evidence is fine but rule one. No-evidence does not mean ,
no-thing...Just look at all the 'smart people' who were astounded by
the discovery of 'germs'.
[thank god said the leeches.. we can get back to our niche]
and
'the arrogating ignorance of those who only accepted men could fly
when a plane passed in the sky'
Even after all this time. 95% of human beings have NO IDEA
[conceptually] of the universe. [the 1 in 20 law]
The closest most get is astrology.
Say Virgo.. 'Hey , im a virgo', your a constellation of stars seen from pov1
'No, my star sign silly boy...'
STAR sign? then stars are involved.. 'well i suppose so.'
[you dont pull many girls this way but the distraction is amusing]

All science, philosophy, religion is rooted in the question.
WHY

I postulate that WHY is WHY we are here.

Occam
ps

lol

 

Okay, I don't know if you're ready for it?
Here goes:
The Eternal Question:
Ginger or Mary Ann?

 

Mrs Howell
[he didnt call her 'lovey' for nothing]

 

Good Answer! Myself, I would have said both but then I'm just greedy!

 

Also, if God was dead don't you think we all would have been invited to the funeral!

 

No.. he would not be buried here..
According to scripture.. the son was here but the father and the holy ghost stayed home cause it was harvest time.
And being GOD.. they didnt have to GO anywhwere. They were everywhere.

His family grew up on a small plot on the 5th rock from a k2 star in a
gallaxy about 4 billion lightyears ftom here. In the virgo supercluster.
Thats where he goes in the ground..
If we were invited, we might arrive about 50 billion years after the
heat death of the universe. [ and slightly superfluous inour formal wear]

Occam

 

Doesn't seem that way in the US, anyway. People were ceasing to believe in God in Nietzsche's day because man's ability to create technology made us look unstoppable, like we were on a track to becoming gods ourselves. 100 years later, we've had Chernobyl, Hiroshima, and even relatively minor stuff like crappy video recorders, all as evidence that technology will not set us free if we are not good people. Meanwhile increased social atomisation has led people to yearn for a sense of community, and I think many subconsciously go to church looking for that. I think if there's anything that would explain a resurgence in belief, it's this. 100 years since Nietzsche, we've seen that smarts alone aren't going to make our lives better.

 

amen

agree.
If the church was smart it would pass on some of the story and take up some social guidance.
People dont want to hear the begats..
It's all about WHY..
And always has been. Since gilgamesh payed out on enkidu for being a hairy oaf.

Why do you think beer is so popular.

Occam

 

This, I think, is what frustrates me with some of the atheists I've met; they don't see that religion serves this purpose, that it helps people deal with pathetic little things that never the less indicate larger issues. Science has not set us free, and shows little sign of doing so, yet I am constantly told that to believe in something outside the realms of science is evidence of delusion, rather than hope. Even if you don't believe in God, you need to believe in something, otherwise you end up as mindless and stupid as the computers that blankly stare back at you flashing error commands.

 

Yes, go ahead and believe in your own delusion. :jester:

You can even start your own cult and believe in it.

 

I genuinely pity you.