Is Education A Big Scam?

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Tom155, Aug 29, 2016.

  1. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Except I am not a desk clerk. My job is multi-faceted, but if you think I just sit at the desk all night, you're mistaken. First and foremost I am a maintenance person. I also make sure the building is secure at night, I answer the phones, do QA, complete resident diet orders, etc. While I don't exactly make a lot of money, I don't make minimum wage, either. I actually make a decent enough wage.
     
  2. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    It's totally a scam. You never get anywhere in life being well educated. All them folk with jobs, can't even spell. Can't even maths. That's why you're missing your MacDonalds sweets and sour sauces. Dumb ass mofo dunno how to read it ya know?
     
  3. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    College offers a good foundation but most of what I learned was through OJT (On The Job Training) and experience



    Hotwater
     
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  4. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    What about those jobs where like, they want you straight out of school and already experienced. lol. Or the ones where like, you need the job for the training and experience, but you can't get the job because you're not trained and have no experience. :D

    My boss and I, we just employ people with a "can-do attitude", someone who looks fun and wants to have fun, with work. There's lots of little odd jobs involved working in the hostel. But you'll learn some good lessons too, like how to pour a beer. :) everyone should know this simple task. Or, bow to unload a shipping container with a pallet fork etc.

    Not many people leave our place because they don't enjoy it, they just move somewhere else, that's all. Often if they're ever back in town, they're back with us too. :)
     
  5. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    sure depends on how the word is used. the commodification of knowledge and skill, yes THAT is a scam, just as is creating any false scarcity for the purposes of economic exploitation.

    sorry about refusing to take assumptions at face value without asking the next question. that is, sorry if anyone has a problem with someone else doing so.
     
  6. NoHobo

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    This is easily one of the dumbest things I've ever read on the internet.
     
  7. NoHobo

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    I'm the sophisticated kind.
     
  8. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    No. Just because a degree doesn't always gets you what you want doesn't mean its a big scam.
     
  9. morrow

    morrow Visitor

    Education is there, it's up to you what you get out of it, no one can imprint your brain!
    Then it's up to you to put it to use..why do people think, if they are well educated, the world will knock at your door? Get yourself a life!
     
  10. pensfan13

    pensfan13 Senior Member

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    Skip fix the site. I need to like this a couple more times.


    Anyway,

    It is the student loan system that is the scam.
     
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  11. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I did not pay enough attention in school to answer truthfully, but if I had to guess I'd say this: No it isn't a big scam. Yes it is worth the money.

    I went to school. I learned, but I didn't enjoy it as much as I should have. I guess I'm not a very good student, or a good post responder for this topic.
     
  12. Piaf

    Piaf Senior Member

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    Meh you guys should worry less about money, you can always find a job that relies on tips.
    That way you can live a more modest and meaningful life.


    I bet PR's life is very meaningful, he is not unenlightened like yall losers.
     
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  13. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    knowledge is certainly not a scam. the propritization of knowledge is. there are combinations of knowledge that are discouraged to be persuid because of the inconvenience to economic interests of well educated people putting two and two together. and while educational institutions are often guilty of following corporate industry's lead, dissmissing out of had, the value of high level knowledge skills, is no better, and actually works toward the same undisirable end, that being widespread ignorance, which facilitates its own exploitation. one might even reasonably suspect the high price of higher education of being a deliberate ploy to discourage pursuit of it.
     
  14. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    How does a person being in favor of higher education equate to them being money obsessed and lacking any meaning in their life??

    THIS is why we need better educated people in the world, so they can accurately discern the difference.........
     
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  15. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    I can easily picture how that COULD be the case. It is just not so by default/definition (sp?)
     
  16. Heat

    Heat Smile, it's contagious! :) Lifetime Supporter

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    I am thankful that I had the opportunity to get an education and degrees. It has served me well and allowed me to have a very comfortable and financially secure life. You can knock the financial all you like but it is a good place to be in to not worry about being able to support yourself and family. I also loved what I did for a living and that is the bonus.

    An education is a stepping stone in the path not the paved lane that so many wish it to be. I have encouraged both of my kids to pursue an education and thankfully that is what they are doing. My daughter finished her degree in criminology and now has decided to return for nursing. My son is doing biochem with a math major and intends to get his doctorate and then go from there into medicine, or research or teach. He is not sure yet.

    I also support those who choose instead to do what is traditionally a trade as we also need trades.

    What you do with any education or training is up to you, it is a tool to move forward.
     
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  17. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Because everything you've said about college relates to how much money a person makes, as if a person is (or should be) defined by how much they make, their job title, or some other ultimately meaningless shit.
     
  18. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    its not the little green pieces of paper that are unhappy. the value of knowing how things work and how to do things, doesn't begin and end with them either.

    education should be about learning what you want to know about, not a piece of paper that says you spent four years looking for it.

    what you are the most curious to know about is what is most likely to be most useful to you and make you the most useful to yourself or anyone else.

    that's why people, anyone, should just be able to take whatever kinds of classes they want to, without the idea of degree programs or career paths.

    the only people who shouldn't be in any classroom or library they want to be, is if they just want to be there to disrupt and screw it up for everyone else,

    other then that, providing access to knowledge is what education is for, not controlling who has access to it.
     
  19. NoHobo

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    Nothing is as meaniningful as your job title and your salary. That's the only real way you can differentiate yourself from others and improve your life in this world. Money does not necessarily equal happiness, but it sure as hell equals freedom. The more money you have, the more freedom you usually have, the more choice you have, the more options you have, and, as a result, the higher your quality of lfie is. It is the opposite of meaningless. You can keep on telling yourself that it's meaningless, to justify your lack of money, but even you, deep inside, know that that's false.
     
  20. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    NO,NO,NO, my dear ratman.
    I related it to $$$$ in response to the posts from braintrusts such as yourself stating that $$$ is the primary reason people pursue a college degree.
    It was the uneducated in the crowd making such claims, not me.
    But I do understand that lacking a secondary education, a person may only be able to comprehend things in such a naive and rudimentary way.

    Sorry if the reality of having higher education more often than not equals a bigger paycheck, I didn't make up the rules of this game, I just don't piss, moan and whine about it incessantly as some ratmen do.
     

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