I wasn't just talking about college but I'm going to have to differ with you. There was some pretty wild times in the 70s and 80s and a lot of it depended on how you carried yourself. It really was the decades of orgies and experimentation. Hey there was obviously some assholes. (Like a box of cracker jacks, there's always a surprise waiting to be found) I can only talk from my experiences and that was pople could smell bullshit a mile away back in those days. And single men trying to get let in to the "scene" tended to get their asses kicked up between their shoulders if they didn't behave themselves and aspire to be a class act. At least Belushi's character got off his ass and went out to get his fix. He was a crude rude jack ass but at least he didn't sit behind a computer screen all day pouding his pud all day. A really large and growing number of young men sit watching porn to the point that when they actually met a real woman they honestly believe she's not supposed to be wearing panties and should put a butt plug in her ass to go shopping. And when they find out that a real woman doesn't tend to act like a porn slut. They get the opinion that she's not normal and a worthless bitch. Sadly I come into contact with this type of moron every day. Unfortunately a lot of the MEN'S dorms are just as you described. I think there are a few handfuls of women addicted to the Internet. But the quality of men available is dropping every day. So I suspect many are just accepting or settling for what they can get. Personally I can take it or leave it. When I'm having sex with a woman I'm really only interested in spending time with her and enjoying the sensations of touching and being touched. I'm not looking to exert my dominance and if or when there's something "special" I want to try or do. I'll discuss it with her before I try it out.
im 16 but alot of my friends are between ages 18-20 and i must say that though most of the people in my school arent virgins, they still maintain their anal virginity.. i personally would never try it and i know that alot of my friends are totally in agreement with me. i definately dont think its the new "black"
Other than the fact that she meant "retain" rather than "maintain" I can't see the problem with the term "anal virginity" - it's perfectly clear what is meant. You've not elaborated on the "volumes" that it speaks. You know, for a "smut peddler" you do seem a little uptight and prudish. Maybe I'm mistaken, but you really don't seem to be living up to your moniker.
I like how this game is played. When I was in college and I didn't want to try speed with my roommate I was accused of being judgemental. << Sorry I know I have a tendancy to become addicted to things and I didn't see a good reason to take a risk >> When an ex-girlfriend wanted me to try a bisexual 3some with her exboyfriend, I was accused of being closed minded. << Sorry if I'm going to try gay sex I would at least like to find the male slightly attractive and a 6'3" body building football player asking me to bend over just turns me off >> And now that I'm not participating and towing the "politicaly correct anything goes attitude" I'm accused of being a prude. WELL... I pride myself on responsiblity and being able to see past the bullshit in life. Jackass is as jackass does and even if it's only on the Internet, I don't want to participate in stupid shit. A woman is a humanbeing and she should not be objectified until she feels obligated to be nothing more than cock socket. Women should be treated with respect and afforded their dignity to in order that they can come to their own conclusions on what they like or want sexually. Now if you want to call me a prude... Be my fucking guest.
You do sound very angry. Take a deep breathe and relax. If you are going to get all fired up in a forum about "The joys of oral and anal sex" maybe you've come to the wrong place. Maybe a little less of the preaching and moralising and a little more of the smut peddling wouldn't go amiss.
Or guys who think that playing clean is boring. I think you've paired the sexual adventurism and open mindedness and easy goingness along with the "used and discarded" meme in order to create hysteria and discredit the good by pretending it leads to the bad. Because you're afraid of being rejected. And because you didn't have an imagination to come up with it and feel inferior. People don't read non fiction. They'd rather be ignorant because they can avoid making decisions. And given that women have all the power in bed, ultimately, perhaps the shift in favor of guys is another move on the part of women to try and experience something a little more intense and primal than 1980s rec room style sexcapades. Prudery will always be around. By excluding the prudes as uncool on the basis that they'll tattle, you can make their self righteousness and sense of isolated heroism far worse. It's just cliquing. Ass to mouth if you want. Don't tell me there's something wrong in my head unless you can prove it. Otherwise it's just an insult. Which is unimpressive and easily blown off.
I don't think we disagree all that much. Everybody has their own experiences, and a lot of sexual stuff is still underground. I can't post everything I know about that. Just don't assume that everything worth knowing is online. (It's like finding a weed source in a new town. It can be done, but it isn't fast or easy.) In the Sexual Revolution, the Northeast and California were several years ahead of the rest of the country, and the Southeast (except for New Orleans, Atlanta, and Miami) were dead last; at least ten years behind the cutting edge. San Francisco had its Summer of Love in 1967. I'd say that North Carolina party schools reached that level of sexual depravity in 1982. (Better late than never!) It used to be hard to find out what was going on in different places, and what people were really doing. Nationally, hardcore partying information was being spread around only by a few men's porn magazines, Cosmo, HBO, and CineMax. And everybody knew that a lot of that info was either watered down or exaggerated. I went to a lot of parties with college football players and other athletes. The number one rule for guys was to treat the hot sluts like rock stars; otherwise, they might not come back next weekend, and the party would suck. If a girl called out for help or screamed, a bunch of football players would instantly grab the guy and beat the shit out of him, before they even found out what the girl was upset about. Nobody ever got in trouble for this because all the witnesses would say, "I didn't see anything." I felt very safe. And those guys are able to get sex without paying for it? Hookers and escorts used to make a fortune off those losers. Our generation had its male fantasies too. Remember the old James Bond movies? Totally unrealistic, especially when Roger Moore was playing Bond. I might throw myself at Sean Connery like that, but Roger Moore... Now you're starting to sound like a woman posting as a man! Yeah, I can remember when that term wasn't needed, except maybe in a conversation between gay males. I have to disagree on that. It can be fun for a girl to play the role of sex object, for a while, in a situation where she isn't expecting anything more. After all, not every young woman gets that opportunity. And it has nothing to do with serious relationships. There is plenty of time for that later. The screen name did lead me to expect something a little different, but I do think it's crazy for everyone to expect all hedonists to be foolish. Smart people can reject traditional morals too. Online, why do people read all disagreement as sounding angry? Does every strong reaction to a statement prove the writer is an angry person? No. You're talking about a guy who has 25 fewer posts than you, and you both have less than 100. I don't think it's time for you to be telling other new members how they should be. People? You're declaring all people to be stupid by choice? Look in the mirror, jackass. You are only speaking for yourself. Everybody makes their own decisions. If you can't make sexual decisions, a virus or a sperm cell will make one for you. And this might be the first time in my life anybody has called me boring. I have a strong feeling you have no idea what that was like. If you had been there, you would have been one of those guys who got his face pounded into hamburger by the football players. Maybe you would have fit in at the S&M parties. Maybe not. Again, you have no idea what you're talking about. I once had a roommate who would have considered it a great service to Jesus if she could have gotten me and all my friends kicked out of school. What was I excluding her from? She didn't want an invitation to these parties. If I was in college today, I would probably be considered to be one of the prudes. Just as well; most of the young guys today seem like they deserve to have to spend all their free time beating off in front of a computer. I feel bad for the few who seem to 'get it'. It's time for women of all ages to remember that we control 100% of the pussy on the planet. Guys who don't want that don't need us at all, and we don't need them.
Okay they're not stupid by choice. Then why do they not read up, as you wonder? I've always loved the argument that women are strong and can manage their affairs without daddy's direction...because the goon squad will protect them, like a father.
No, that reflects on you, not me. I'm still waiting for somebody to come up with a plausible answer. Anybody can look things up on WebMD or the CDC web site or something similar these days without looking over our shoulder, worried about a right-wing prude from the dorms showing up to ask nosy questions or making angry, judgmental statements. There's no excuse anymore for not knowing the facts, if you can read English and use a computer. What does a sex & drug party have to do with normal adult life? You don't call the police to an illegal party, and nobody is going to come in my office building in the middle of the day and attack me. And if my dad had walked into one of my college parties at an awkward moment, he would have been mad at me, not the guys. That's not the kind of protection I wanted. You seem to have trouble understanding that different things are appropriate and acceptable in different situations. Not cool. Log off the porn sites for a week or two, and try to learn a little more about real women in real life...even if you have to hire a hooker. You have a lot to learn.
When someone says "Be my fucking guest" I think it's safe to assume they are angry don't you think? One could suggest you yourself are now being hypocritical, because the way I'm reading that suggests you think you for some unspoken reason do have that privilege. I'm not telling anyone anything; it was a suggestion because, although I'm finding reading his posts quite tedious I can't actually make him do anything.
I wouldn't be comfortable having you decide what a 'normal' adult life is, despite your liberal secular modernity. You don't believe that culture changes any more than it has already changed. You applaud the liberalism so far but expect it to go no further. I'm sorry if you would prefer that I encourage your defeatism. What you describe, then, a secret underground society, has always been possible. It never had anything to do with culture but at most a sub culture and more likely, as I said before, a clique, of like minded conspirators, humping like a family of bros and sisters. It's a bit incestuous because it's so exclusive. Paternalism is about listening to daddy. It's about daddy smacking anybody who looks at his daughter. It's both and if you want to paint paternalism as something that victimizes the girl without pretending to defend her, you're wrong.
:rofl: Please, tell me more about how your e-rep and post history makes your statements more valid then anyone elses :rofl:
I think it's safe to assume that they didn't like what was said to them. Anything more is a guess on your part, unless they have established a pattern of behavior. Thank you, Captain Obvious. What do most adults do on a weekday? Work all day at a mainstream job, come home, eat, surf the web and watch TV for a little while, and go to bed. Not similar to living on-campus with thousands of single people with time on their hands. I was not offering a value judgment on whether or not it should be something different. If sexual 'snuff films' become the new black next year, do you expect me to embrace that too? Liberalism has nothing to do with putting your brain and your judgment in 'park'. In fact, it is the opposite. The sexual revolution was all about escaping the chains of traditional sexual morals. You're describing something more like a revolution against medical reality, and a return to women being required to do whatever men want. That's the opposite of empowering women. You're twisting the word 'liberal' to suit your own agenda. Again, you're showing that you understand nothing about the sexual revolution. Without those who were willing to push the limits in the past, we would still be living in a 1950's culture, where anal sex with a consenting adult would get you a long jail sentence. I'm talking about protecting myself against potentially violent guys who were twice my size. Very simple. Are you stupid?