Is Al Quaida is Jewish?

Instead of stupidly repeating the same incoherent argument I'm asking you to shut up and provide evidence for your ridiculous claims. Until you do you have nothing.

 

I presented the possibility of something. Thats all. People are welcome to take it as they will. I've already reached my goal of making the possibilities visible.

I can't give concrete evidence because I don't have any. Neither does anybody else. But there are enough things going on today that need some very close scrutiny. And with a government that is so obsessed from hiding what it's doing, evidence is pretty hard to come by. It doesn't mean that facts won't come out later down the road, they're just not here yet.

I know you're Jewish, and that you have sensitivities towards this subject, but you need to understand there is much more going on that you know. And it's being done in the name of Judaism.

The zionists I speak of are not your friends.



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I'm curious, did she make it back ok ?

Do you think (she) may have connections to Al_Quaida?

 

You can keep your smart alec comments to yourself and off this thread.

She's 14. I teach bicycle safety to kids in my spare time.


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Is The Iranian Revolutionalry Guard Jewish?

Is Hammas? Hezbolah ? Islamic Jihad ?


Can we ascribe no guilt whatsoever to the Islamic side of the confilict?

 

As I explained in a recent post, zionism tends to oversee rather than participate in the violence. They pull the strings.

The guilty in AQ are mostly Arab. Conveniently so.

Arabs don't like AQ anymore than anybody else for the most part, but they aren't given much of a voice in the western media to make that point. Also convenient.

All we ever see on the evening news is a mob of hot headed radicals who look violent.

Wonder why they're angry?

It couldn't possibly have anything to do with US foreign policy, could it?

Do I need to publish the list again of those who write that policy?




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I'm reading news about some very together Arabs in Iraq who are having an election. They are debating and agitating in a civilized manner to have the army that liberated them to leave.

How nice that they feel strong enough to want Western soldiers out.
They have routed the radical militia's in Basra and Monsoul.

Of course the media will not show this. To the media Iraq is total chaos.

 

Iraq is a problem best handled by the Arabs.

While there is likelyhood a civil war of sorts breaking out afterwards, they're rather used to infighting and do eventually come to agreements.

This is still a world of tribes, and there is a kind of honor among them.

We, are infidels on Muslim soil, and that will never change in this part of the world.



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You really do have a lot of spare time.

You think that linking to holocaust denial websites and calling jewish members of government traitors is hip?

I'll tell you what I've done here - I'm the one that pointed out that your first post was based on a fake quote. I'm the one that read through your links and showed that you visit and promote holocaust denial websites. See? I did the work. I did the checking. I'm not like you, I don't just change the subject or pretend that when I get things wrong it only shows how right I am. I am the real deal, you are a fake.

I only wish there was some way I could let that 14 year old girls parents know what kind of person their daughter spent her day with.

 

Can’t you take a joke?

Actually I am satirizing your belief in conspiracies. Your opinions are not worth a dignified rebuttal. By arguing that the Jews lead Al Qaeda you defame an entire people. That is not funny, and I am unamused by your bigotry.

 

Xexon

So he’s refusing once again to answer my questions, which make’s it official, he doesn’t actually believe in all this guff, he has other motives.

I’m not that surprised, although there were those indoctrinated Nazis that believed whole heartedly in the so called ‘Jewish Conspiracy’, many just went along with it either because they were racist or thought they could gain financially from it, and others knew it was guff but thought scapegoating was a good way of furthering their political agenda.

A more resent example is the whole Iraqi WMD’s thing, some people truly believed Saddam had them, others went along with it for monetary reasons and still others knew it was complete guff but thought it was a good way of pushing there own political agenda.

Xexon is even giving the same reply to the doubters of the neo-con claims – wait and see.

The thing is that by the time it was clear the claims were a house of cards, built on innuendo, supposition and deceit, it was too late the neo-cons had got what they wanted, the invasion, and where smiling, shrugging their shoulders and going – ‘oh shucks’.

So don’t take any notice of the whole ‘zionist conspiracy’ cod wallop , he doesn’t really believe in it, that just a smoke screen, the equivalent of the neo-con’s fake intelligence and Blair’s dodgy dossiers.

The question is what is xexon aiming for?

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Is it racist or political or both?

I precisley target the troublemakers while leaving the rest of the race intact. That hardly qualifies me as racist.

But xexon doesn’t precisely target the people involved, the whole thing involves a ‘conspiracy’, he might talk of ‘radical Jewish zionists’ but which people are involved in the conspiracy and which not?

How can conspirators be distinguished from others?

The US establishment used the supposed threat of ‘communist conspiracy’ to clamp down on all left wing or progressive thinking.

As Albert Canwell the chair of the California committee on un-American activities put it -

“If someone insists there is discrimination against Negroes in this country, or that there is inequality of wealth, there is every reason to believe that person is a communist”

People like Xexon think in the same way they’d use this fake conspiracy to their own ends, with anyone not fitting in to the prescribed way of thinking being harassed and suppressed.

The use of supposed threats as a means to an end has a long history in the US, some had racial or racist tilts, such as the supposed ‘yellow peril’ of the late 19th and early 20th century, or the ongoing bigotry against black people. Others had ideology as a basis, such as ‘communism’ and others have been shadowy ‘drug pushers’ and ‘terrorists’.

So what are xexons political views, what political policies, programmes and action would he like taken or support?

What is he aiming for?

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The best way is to educate the public about whats going on behind the scenes of their respective governments.

Remember how the neo-cons tried to educate the public on the threat posed by Saddam’s WMD’s.

Remember how the US establishment used conspiracy theories about ‘reds under the beds’ to suppress left wing ideas in America and around the world.

As I’ve pointed out garbage in only leads to garbage out, xexon isn’t trying to educate because he knows what he’s pushing is crap, for him it is just a means to an end.

So what is xexon trying to push?

That there is a conspiracy, involving lots of people that is controlled by Jewish Zionists, he says it’s not all Jews but the problem is that it’s virtually impossible to say which Jews are involved and which not.

That would seem to teach but one thing – all Jews must be seen as suspect until proven otherwise.

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I say that there are things that have been put into motion by these people that can no longer be stopped. It has to be gone through. There isn't enough momentum of outside thought and opinions to save anybody in time.

So can anything be done?

The greater the threat the better, it causes the greatest amount of tension and if the tactic is to ferment trouble the cause must seem lost, so there isn’t talk of talk of solutions, well not yet; the Nazis didn’t come out at the very beginning and talk about gassing babies and genocide, they talked of the German state being already under the control of Zionist Jews.

As pointed out it isn’t credible that xexon hasn’t thought up some solutions to the problems he claims are there, but why is he so afraid to talk about them, what is he trying to hide?

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Excuse me. Accusations as incendiary as yours require more than theoretical possibility. Over the centuries slanders like yours have provoked pogroms and eventually the Holocaust. That is why what you are doing is so evil.

It bothers me that a Jewish person may read your posts and decide to leave www.hipforums.com as a result.

 

I'm sorry, but Jews ARE capable of doing wrong too. I'll call them out as long as I see it. That goes for Catholics, Baptists, and anybody else that gets my attention.

They are NOT immune from suspicion.

Balbus, you are engaged in attacking my person. I'm going to ask that you stop it and keep it on topic, and do your moderator duties to ensure that others do likewise, which you have not.

We are not supposed to be attacked on this political forum for our beliefs, yet you have engaged in the same behavior as the others. I'm going to lodge a complaint against you as a moderator if you continue down this road.




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Here is a list of JEWS that don't like zionism either. Are they racist? Are they bigots? Are they anti-semites or self hating Jews?


http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/

http://www.nkusa.org/

http://zope.gush-shalom.org/index_en.html

It appears not all is well within the Jewish community itself over this issue.


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Xexon

In what way have I attacked your person?

I have set out clearly why I think you are pushing a conspiracy theory that you don’t even believe in.

I notice you don’t seem to dispute my arguments.

All I’m asking you to do is give us an idea of your political viewpoint since it has a very important bearing on why you might be involved in such behaviour.

It is not much to ask, why are you so unwilling to do so, what are you trying to hide?

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It's the insinuation that I'm hiding something.

The subject of this thread is political. It has NOTHING to do with me, my beliefs, or anything related to my person.

I am not the subject matter of this thread.


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LOL Xexon

That is my point I believe you are hiding something, what’s more I’ve set out my reasons for believing you are hiding something.

You have not and are not disputing my arguments.

You are just telling me to stop.

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The subject of this thread is an assertion and in the course of it you have made some other assertions, I’ve set out why I believe you don’t actually believe in those assertions, I’ve also set out why I think you are only making them for reasons that you seem to want to keep hidden.

What I’m trying to understand is the real reasons for you making such assertions and posting them here?

If you have nothing to hide why not address the points I’ve raised?


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I guess it's time to discuss how zionism promotes anti-semitism.

The following quote is taken from http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/zionism/zanda.cfm

It has been the age-old intention of Zionism to intentionally stir up anti-Semitism anywhere possible, and even more commonly, to take advantage of any Jewish suffering anywhere in order to enhance its cause Indeed, hatred of Jews and Jewish suffering is the oxygen of the Zionist movement, and from the very beginning has been to deliberately incite hatred of the Jew and then, in feigned horror, use it to justify the existence of the Zionist state – this is, of course, Machiavellianism raised to the highest degree. Thus, the Zionists thrive on hatred and suffering of Jews, and seek to benefit thereby through keeping Jews in perpetual fear, causing them to ignore the true nature of Zionism, and instead to consider the Zionist state is their salvation.




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Balbus, do you have a single question?


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Zionism

I object to zionism based or my own sense of morality. Its a political movement that inspires hatred on both sides of the ocean.

It is an "evil" entity that threatens world peace.

And I shall spend the rest of my days in the effort to expose it for what it is.

Which might be short if some of you had your way.


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