Iraq Pullout

I agree 100% I am totally against this war but the biggest mistake we could make now would be to just pull all the troops out now. What would have accomplished other then leave a country in a mess. We need to stay there and sort out the mess we started.

Love & Agreement
EnonEmouse

 

You're right, Ralph only has allegiance to himself and his republican supporters.

 

Pardon me but what are all the British troops over there chopped liver. The Americans are not the only ones in the country so this part of your aurguement doesn't hold water. Sorry to correct you but there are thousands of British Troops in Iraq. I know this first hand as my husband was one of them.

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EnonEmouse

 

So all the people that voted for Nader are really Republicans and he shares the same basically the same values as Republicans? Or maybe you're just afraid he might cost Kerry the election because he is trying to make a point.

 

aww hun i dont think she was saying there are no brittish troops over there, i think she wouldn't have meant it like that at all..we all know there are british troops over there.but we need more nations other than Brittain, so the Iraqi's wont think we are 'taking over'

 

No disrespect was intended, when I talk about pulling out of Iraq, I usually am refering to Americans, simply because I live here. I know we have some help from other nations, but not nearly enough. Not enough for the Iraqis to believe that we do not intend to persist there. Also, the war was our idea without question, so naturally they blame us.

 

Sorry for being the one to say it, but every time i read the title "pull out" i am imagining a giant cock trying to sneak out before it blows a load. oh wait we are fucking iraq.

 

Yep, plus the original poster is from the U.S. so I assume the thread was about the U.S. getting out of Iraq.

 

The Iraqis who are against us are also against our allies, so it will make absolutely no difference, even if we magically obtained more allies, which the good possibility is we won't.

You don't seem to understand that the majority of militant Iraqis see the entire western world the same, because they realize that all these nations are in it for the exact same reason as us, which is oil and money.

 

*barf*
As was said before, you encourage the enlistment of the mentally handicapped? Every time you post it's becomes more and more clear that you suck. It is well known that the poor enlist not the "unintelligent".

If our country was under attack, it's cowards like yourself that would hide while the brave and honorable would defend. I don't think you're one of the intelligent "peopel".

Nope. Fairly delirious is more like it. FYI, Pressed Rat (you know, your hero) has said war is necessary at times. Fool.

 

The U.S. does have a particularly special place in the hearts of many middle-eastern Arabs because of our stance on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, though.

I know that this is a moot point, but we should not have gone into Iraq in the first place. Unfortunately, from the larger perspective, we cannot simply pull out either. This is truly a Catch-22. Our presence invites attacks, but the only way to make the situation worse is to leave.

 

Madcap, I am annoyed that republicans are trying to get Ralph on the ballot because they know if he gets on, that it will increase Bush's chances for another 4 years. If Ralph is the answer, it must have been a pretty stupid question. If you want 4 more years of Bush, you might as well vote for Ralph.

 

When did I ever say that war is necessary? Now you're clearly putting words in my mouth.

I believe in non-interventionalism, unlike the Democrats and Republicans, who love war and are power hungry. History has not only proven that both parties love war, but will go out of their way to incite war in the name of power.

The only time I believe war is necessary is if we are under attack/invasion from another country. But since I believe in a strong DEFENSE as opposed to a strong OFFENSE, there would be no need for war.

People should understand that every war the US has fought over the past century have been imperial wars intended for the US to gain an ever-increasing foothold extending across the entire globe. It IS the grand chessboard.

 

I don't believe in god.

Kerry would not have invaded. The neocons who did want to invade are part of the Bush administration.

You think we could do that without starting a war?

Kerry doesn't want to maintain a presence there.

Whatever, it's no use, you're one of those Bush* supporters.

Well, he has put his life on the line for America in the past....
He's a really good man Have I mentioned that?

Kerry does this every time he makes a speech. He also said he will hold a summit.

Oh man, I don't agree with that AT ALL. What?! Why should other nations have to fight our war alone?! Money is not enough, not at all. It's almost sick to consider it.
How could you guys who don't like Kerry's plan (much more feasible) like this plan?

Sounds a lot like Kerry's plan.

This war was extremely poorly planned. Many of the Iraqis did embrace us at first, certainly no longer. If we reconstruct, we can finally get out and the only hope for that is John Kerry.

 

Well, he has put his life on the line for America in the past....
He's a really good man Have I mentioned that?

Kerry does this every time he makes a speech. He also said he will hold a summit.

Oh man, I don't agree with that AT ALL. What?! Why should other nations have to fight our war alone?! Money is not enough, not at all. It's almost sick to consider it.
How could you guys who don't like Kerry's plan (much more feasible) like this plan?

Sounds a lot like Kerry's plan.

This war was extremely poorly planned. Many of the Iraqis did embrace us at first, certainly no longer. If we reconstruct, we can finally get out and the only hope for that is John Kerry.[/QUOTE]


i agree, but wait..I'm a Kerry supporter..so I will get "You agree because you're a Kerry supporter" but, oh well, that's how I feel also

 

No, you did say that. You have like 30 million posts, so obviously I can't track it down, but you did say it.
WWII perhaps?
You only care about what serves the U.S.'s purposes, so I don't see why you are even antiwar. The Libertarian party is pretty selfish it seems. It may be about freedom, but it's the freedom to not care about the plights of other countries and other people.

 

I think the US should pull out and hand it over to the UN. Our troops can stay there as they are needed, but they shouldn't be alone and they should be managed by the world and not just us. Plus I think the Iraquis should have more to say in what happens to their country than they do.

 

I think the only thing John Kerry has made clear is that the war is the wrong one, at the wrong place, at the wrong time. Why would they believe someone about our reasoning to go in when he said we should have never been there in the first place? Why would they believe him any more than they believe Bush? If they hate us, their minds are made up. I don't see how Kerry would go in there and magically change their minds. I guess he has a "plan," which can be read at www.johnkerry.com, but not stated on National TV at a debate. Kerry's plan is the Bush plan.

As for Bush not being elected President, how do you know? Did you go in and hand count all the votes yourself? For as many times as those ballots were counted, and they repeatedly said Bush won, I think the only logical conclusion would be just that... BUSH WON FAIR AND SQUARE.

I respect the original post on this forum. Even if you were against the whole war in the first place, it is logical to believe that we have a job to do. But let's also not forget which Senator from Massachussetts voted in favor of the war.

 

If you study up on what has happened in the past, the UN will not act on the situation in Iraq. They have attempted many times to go in and peacefully search for WMDs. Sadaam wouldn't allow it, so the UN just simply gave up. They don't have a backbone. I can't believe we're even apart of that stupid organization. We are a sovereign nation... we don't need to be apart of that group. We need to stand up for ourselves when it is appropriate.

 

Yes, maybe because Republicans respect Democracy, I don't see Republicans trying to get the Libertarians or Constitution party out of any state though we all know a few hundred votes could decide this election.