Iq Sceptic

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by autophobe2e, Aug 13, 2017.

  1. SpacemanSpiff

    SpacemanSpiff Visitor

    that reminds me


    dock 10 more for spelling skeptic incorrectly
     
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  2. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I was wondering when someone else was going to pick up on that [​IMG]


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  3. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    I think they're pointless.

    They say serial killers generally have high IQs, I say, what the fuck we still testing cunts for. :D

    My missus has a higher IQ than me. She's book smart like that and always has been. My IQ is below hers, but, I'm street smart.

    She may look at a map and read it, use a compass and orientate where she needs to go based on calculative information that she's processed.

    I'll look at the sky or a land mark and start walking.

    I know I'll reach the destination first, but
    I'm not smarter than her. So I don't think an IQ test should really mean much. And then also, a lot of super smart people end in dead end jobs while someone with no clue they can end up anywhere and everywhere. So just because you have a high IQ it doesn't guarantee you anything at really, period.
     
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    Sorry :unsure:
     
  5. SpacemanSpiff

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    -10 for double posting
     
  6. autophobe2e

    autophobe2e Senior Member

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    +15 points for spelling sceptic in the correct, British way.

    Damn colonials... :D
     
  7. autophobe2e

    autophobe2e Senior Member

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    That test doesn't make sense, Magazine looks sick though, they published Burning Chrome.
     
  8. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    IQ is not a measure of how much information you can absorb or how fast you absorb it, it is a measurement of what you do with information.
    It measures your innate ability to problem solve using logic and reason.
    That is why there have been so many various ones developed over recent decades, because not everyone has the same educational and cultural experiences.
    The ones administered at public schools are done so with the assumption that those taking the test have attained some degree of education in the topics used in the test.
    Tests for other socioeconomic groups would be rather different, but that doesn't mean the tests or results are arbitrary, actually the opposite.
    Because they do not test what information a person possess but rather how they manipulate information, the information or data set used in the test is only relevant to the point that it is familiar to the test subject.
    saying it's an arbitrary scale is pointless as all scales humans use to measure our world are arbitrary.

    I remember that Omni test, don't remember what I scored.
    132 on Stanford-Binet though
     
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  9. I was told I had a really high IQ. I don't remember taking the test, except some test in the public library where I built a staircase out of blocks. I can't remember how old I was but they seemed pretty impressed. My parents seemed to think I had some paper that said I had a high IQ on it. For some reason I remember something like 164 but I could have made it all up.
     
  10. autophobe2e

    autophobe2e Senior Member

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    I'd be willing to accept that what I mainly have a problem with is how IQ levels are used/understood/promoted, rather than the methods used to asess them, but I still remain sceptical about them for the reasons I stated before.

    You're saying that although there are differences in the tests themselves, they still give results that are an objective measure because the differences are there to control for external factors that don't impact on individual IQ.

    But then, what about the "extra hard" one you mentioned in Omni magazine? I wouldn't go to an optician and be pleased to hear that I was about to sit "The world's hardest eye exam" because the idea of an eye exam would be to obtain an objective measure of how good my eyes are, not to meet some kind of challenge.

    What possible point can ramping up the difficulty have? Surely it only skews the results (at best). It seems to me that this speaks to my point that a lot of (voluntary) IQ testing speaks to the ego rather than to problem-solving skills.

    I also disagree that all scales are arbitrary, but I suspect that that's a philosophical/semantic rabbit hole that will get us nowhere, so never mind.
     
  11. Adamskiffle

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    IQ is by far not not a perfect measure of intelligence or predictor of success...that being, most prison inmates have at least fairly low IQs & most really successful people have at least a slightly higher than average IQs. I personally trust IQ scores over academic results (at least in terms of measuring fluid intelligence).
     
  12. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    the thing about any over all rating of intelligence is this though,
    if you have a low score, it doesn't mean you can't learn anything you want to learn if you keep at it and live long enough.
    it just means you can expect it to take longer to do so.

    intelligence is just how easy or difficult it is to learn.

    creativity is what motivates us to want to.
     
  13. I'minmyunderwear

    I'minmyunderwear Newbie

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    we do it so we know who the serial killers will be before they start killing.
     
  14. YouFreeMe

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    If you asked everyone, most of them would say that they had higher than average intelligence. It's sort of interesting, since most people, by definition, would be of average intelligence.
     
  15. I'minmyunderwear

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    the average IQ is 160 and the average penis is 8.5 inches.
     
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