interesting times...

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Lodog, Jan 10, 2019.

  1. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Not to mention the Cuban Missile Crisis.
     
  2. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    We're all gonna die....
     
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  3. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    well the environment is the immovable object,
    and human population growth (with its resulting demand for resources) is the irresistable force,
    and unless there's an "environment b", i haven't seen or heard about, my 'money' is on the immovable object.

    i know malthus pointed this out a long time ago, i for get how long, more then a thousand years anyway,
    but the two and two he put together, didn't really take rocket science,
    he was merely pointing it out, thousands of years before anyone really needed to worry about it.

    that day of not needing to worry about though, is long gone.
    human population, consumption, and wastefulness combined,
    are pushing the envilope way the hell and gone.

    many tipping points we have already past.
    the choice that is still in our paws,
    is whether there is to remain a human species in existence,
    with an environment that will enable the continuation of that existence,
    a few hundred years, or even a few decades or even a few years,
    from right this now.

    and the climate thing, that isn't the alpha and omega, that's just the trigger,
    the primer cap, that ignites the critical mass.

    and its past the safety point where we can pull it back.
    what we can do, what we have to do, if we want there to be an us,
    is to salvage some random fragment of our specise,
    by reducing the rate at which we are contributing to it.

    at this point, even if a god did come floating down out of the clouds,
    i doubt it could do more then wait for the smoke to clear,
    and begin work on another planet.

    not that i doubt there are already worlds both older and younger then ours,
    with populations, some of them at least, wiser enough, to not hate logic and universal consideration.

    world that haven't and won't, paint themselves into the same corner we have,
    by so completely ignoring the realities of logic and consideration and the absolutely inescapable need for them.
    dependence of the existence of sapience on them.
     
  4. inthelibrary

    inthelibrary Members

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    Harmeggedon
     
  5. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Word!


     
  6. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    each of us in our own time is old news.
    we can amuse ourselves with rumors of wars,
    but environment is total.
    whether or not our individual death's are,
    extinction is for ever.
    environment doesn't have the drama of war, no doomsday clock, its too complex to base one on, but it needs one.
    between armageddon and envirogedden, my horse is the latter.
    envirogedden is ahead by a length and a half, and they're well into the final turn.
     
  7. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    Tomorrow will be no different than yesterday.. The now is what you make it out to be..
     
  9. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Ich komme wieder!
     
  10. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    the furst depends on where you look, the second is of course true, but not as isolated as it implies.
    all we can do is ourselves, but everyone else has a hand in what surrounds us.
     
  11. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    a good year for successful mutations, unsuccessful non-mutations, and watching the oceans rise.
    might be colones on mars too, but you'd still need a phd in rocket science or a military uniform, or probably both,
    just like it is now, to get there, because the gravity well that makes our existence possible,
    will still be too expensive for ordinary people to leave the ground,
    and even one percenters still won't be able to buy their way beyond low earth orbit.
     
  12. deleted

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    ignoring what is around us is bliss...
     
  13. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    suicidal bliss. not messing up what is around us, is bliss too, and the only way to be blissful AND safe.
     
  14. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    I agree. Limit your responsibilities responsibly and we can. Otherwise:

     
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