Innocent Questions

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Dru, Jan 31, 2009.

  1. Dru

    Dru Member

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    Nesta that can all be changed Yes it's dramitic to change the way we live but we should at least try .Technology is always moving and soon things such as power plants can be almost fully automated which brings down the cost of living ,makes everyday life affordable and in turn more people can be educated and unity can snowball
     
  2. olhippie54

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    The more things are made automated the more unemployment we have.
     
  3. daisymae

    daisymae Senior Member

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    Good thing the cost of living will go down, because no one will have a job if everything is automated...
     
  4. Cherea

    Cherea Senior Member

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    Someone has to build the machines.
     
  5. olhippie54

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    They will be made by automated robots.
     
  6. Dragonfly

    Dragonfly Senior Member

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    damn dude u got it all figured out, but wait doesn't there always have to be atleast one human among robots, the programmer or something like that:confused:
     
  7. nesta

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    no, dru did. i didn't make that clear, but i wasn't addressing you at that point. my apologies.

    but the fact stands that for it to be free energy it must be free. clean energy, yes. sustainable, renewable, yes.

    but its not free at all. it does have a lot of costs involved, and is not free.

    a house with plenty of solar cells may work just fine on its own. but people must remember that the majority of the population lives in big cities, densely populated areas. a highrise apartment building can't simply cover itself in solar panels and hope to provide enough electricity to even meet it's own needs. for an urban environment, vast fields of solar panels/wind turbines would be needed, and large facilities for energy storage would also be required.

    in the long run, sustainable energy generation for rural homes is financially and ecologically sound. it would cost less to run a rural home on solar panels in the long run, but it also takes space and expensive equipment. it could arguably be called "free" by assuming the energy sources it replaces would cost substantially more than it does, but saving money and not paying any money are two totally different things. its certainly not free.

    but it simply isn't feasible at this point in time to create such massive changes to the commercial energy infrastructure at this point. it would be outrageously expensive, inconvenient, and in many ways implausible to try and harness enough electricity from the sun and wind to run all of our country's many urban areas. hopefully the technology will advance quickly enough to make it far more possible, but its just not a very good option right now, and even when it happens eventually it will NOT be free energy unless our society's workings are totally recreated.

    what IS a good option at this point is supplementing fossil fuels with SOME renewable energy, reducing the pollution and costs involved with such means of generating electricity. while the space and resources for creating facilities to generate purely clean electricity for a city simply is too much at the moment, smaller facilities can be created to reduce our consumption of fossil fuels and/or nuclear power.

    but with current technology, the proposition that free energy can run the world is kind of silly, unfortunately.
     
  8. olhippie54

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    Each improvement in machines eliminates jobs.
    What used to require 4 people now only needs 2 and so on.
     
  9. Jaitaiyai

    Jaitaiyai Cianpo di tutti capi

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    A fucking club? Is that to get rid of the aggression? :p
     
  10. Dragonfly

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    i do see where you're coming from on this whole issue, and yeah i do see how it's not "free" energy.

    i wasn't even looking at it in a city placement anyways, when i think of solar energy, or harnessing power or whatever, i always think of large wide open space, or a farm, or something of that nature, which is nature really not powering a big area of apt. buildings or whatever. so yeah i could also have read some of dru's questions wrong, cuz most of my actual answers for him would been:
    greed
    dumb people
    because people crave money and power, and of course, last but not least
    because that's what the government tells u.

    oh and apology excepted about the whole negativiy thing.
     
  11. Dru

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    Legalise weed and use the profits to build sustainable automated renewable energy Free education ,plantations fit to feed a city ,no weapons fear none hate none love everyone
     
  12. Dragonfly

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    awesome theory..

    too bad that's all it is, a theory
     
  13. Cherea

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    Then somebody got to make those. Unless we find slave aliens.
     
  14. Dragonfly

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    nah, i don't have much aggression. i don't even have a big chip on my shoulder despite what u may hear about me :D
     
  15. Dru

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    Evolution is a theory Why is my theory so far fetched
     
  16. nesta

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    because unlike darwinism, it is neither well thought out nor conveniently plausible.

    macroevolution may or may not be true, but it is well thought out, with an elegant, cohesive and plausible argument for it.

    the idea that legalizing weed could generate enough profits to do everything you suggest is pretty misguided, though.
     
  17. Dragonfly

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    well there were others with that same theroy

    John Lennon, Jerry Garcia, ect, ect,

    where are they now?

    what are u doing to put your theroy in motion?

    How long do u really think it'll last before the people in the "holy land" start blowing shit up again?
     
  18. Dru

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    I cant fix the problems but i can help in my own way ,through meditation and raw will power more will see ,more people come to this realisation eveyday .The more on people involved the sooner the idea becomes real and we can help fix the problems that nesta puts forward. Identifing the problems is the first step
     
  19. olhippie54

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    We have machines that make machines that make machines...etc. It's never ending.
     
  20. Cherea

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    Ha! Artificial intelligence. Self-made robots?
     

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