Images from the Vietnam War

Discussion in 'Flashbacks' started by newo, Apr 17, 2011.

  1. placou 1968

    placou 1968 Member

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    well dont stop with that fonda bitch, ya need to love ed asner and walter cronkite as well, if "jane" wanted to find facts she should have loaded her ass up and went with me, she could have learned enough "facts" in 30 minutes to last her a lifetime
     
  2. placou 1968

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    yep, those folks are called warriors
     
  3. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    Well, maybe.... this is getting down to ones personal definition and the meanings of words. To me a "warrior" would stand for right, life and liberty and would go into harms way to protect that for the greater good of his tribe or people....

    The guys I was referring to in my previous post just like killing shit..... puppies, old ladies, doesn't matter. Not quite the same thing. Those I would not call warriors.
     
  4. skip

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    You mean like this guy? Who just shot five people, killing one US park ranger so far. Yeah, a real hero!

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  5. _Bob_

    _Bob_ Una Tana Bibi

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    These kinds of people make me sick-punks with their big muscles and their arsenals of guns. He's an Iraq War veteran-you know, they train people to go overseas, kill other people that never did anything to anybody, then they wonder why so many of them come back home and have problems adjusting to everyday life-I'm surprised a lot more of them don't have those kinds of problems.

    I protested the Vietnam War-and you know, back then, there was a lot of remorse among the people that went to VN and among the general population about killing people in a foreign war that had never done anything to them or threatened the US-not anymore. That's scary, if you ask me.
     
  6. skip

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    When you think of how these "heroes" grew up as kids, you begin to understand the mentality. They grew up playing military style video games that dehumanize the victims. First they're ogres or monsters, then they're Islamic militants, next they're liberals or Occupy protesters.

    Did you know the US gov't has ties with all these military video game companies? The games are based upon real combat scenarios. They monitor the players to see who is qualified for specific jobs with the military. The best killers are hired.

    So we can't just blame WAR itself anymore. We must blame the entire military mentality of the US for spreading its memes not only to young children, but throughout the world via endless wars.

    The US is responsible for more death and destruction than any other country!
     
  7. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Vietnam solved nothing,except the perpetuation of the american killing machine,the ruining of a country and has left the veterans of that war still pissed at the ones that wanted to end it,not to mention being affected by the horrors of war that no human should have to see. The current war-mongers are smart enough to have not instituted a draft.
     
  8. skip

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    The US doesn't need a draft so long as it can pay its mercenaries enough. And now private contractors are taking over the role of the military so even more corrupt corporations can make billions in profits.

    Meanwhile America doesn't have enough money left to feed and house the ever-expanding population of poor people.

    Do you realize it costs this country (us, we the people) ONE MILLION DOLLARS a year for every soldier we keep in the field? Contractors probably cost even more!
     
  9. Meliai

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    The video Bradley Manning released disturbed me on many levels, but what I found most disturbing was a soldier that could be heard in the background while they were waiting for permission to fire saying, "come on, come on, let us shoot. I just wanna kill someone!"

    With no emotion and absolutely no kind of reverence towards life, like he was just playing a game.
     
  10. placou 1968

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    in war there are two options, cry or laugh, when you see soldiers talk or laugh about death and their directly involved in it, their actually doing therapy on each other or they would go insane, at one time in my life NOTHING bothered me, but after i was discharged i realized we were performing therapy on each other without even knowing it, after the discharge the rough times hit. thats a subject thats way to deep to go into. i have no idea about what the video contains
     
  11. placou 1968

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    1. vietnam solved nothing- true
    2. ruining of a country- at least 3 countrys, theirs, ours and im not sure about the french take on it these days
    3. veterans still pissed, not as much as in earlier days, i got over the anger at the u.s., BUT IM NOT EVER EATING RICE AS LONG AS I LIVE.
    4. horrors of war- yes
    5. current war-mongers, im not sure theres any sanity left
     
  12. placou 1968

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    bet i can name 2 heros for every one turd you can post a photo of that created his own shit storm like this wanna-be, jock, newley assigned inmate
     
  13. placou 1968

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    sorry, i didnt know you were refering to killing shit just for the sake of ....is "fun" the correct word, yes thats moronic. that kind of person is usually not what the military seeks out for infantrymen, if someone were in combat with me and i thought they were there only to win medals....possibly at my expense....there would be a strange turn of events for someone.
    something to ponder: gladiators, i would call them old school warriors, all they fought for was their life, no right or wrong, no greater good, just their life.
     
  14. placou 1968

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    having re-read my posts, if i offended anyone i appologize, sometimes those feelings surface and i begin to beat the keys off the keyboard.
    i hope none of you have to endure anything like it, im a patriot and i have thick skin, you wont hurt my feelings, at least for a couple hours...cause im twisting one up right now.
    talk about expanding your horizions, i didnt know i still had such raw emotion pent up, and it wasnt jump started from any comments here, it was just a head trip back in time, come on u.s. postal service BRING MY XANAX.
     
  15. skip

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    Unfortunately it is precisely this kind of kid that the military now seeks out to operate our drones. They work out of a base in Colorado I believe, and can rain down death upon people anywhere else in the world. They have no risk to themselves, have no direct contact with their victims, and control a program little different from the video games they played just a few years ago.

    Just wait till this type of technology and weaponry is unleashed here in the US against our own citizens. It's only a matter of time as police and nat'l guard units are starting to deploy their own drones.

    It seems neither the manufacturers of the drones nor those who operate them have any qualms about who they might be used against. Just like the makers of napalm only cared about all the profits they made from the Vietnam war and not the tens of thousands of lives they destroyed...
     
  16. scratcho

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    Placou--you didn't offend me--I'm just sorry any of you had to go. Hang in.

    I'm an in-betweener. Too young for Korea,too old for Nam.
     
  17. placou 1968

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    you cant believe how much it means to hear someone say something positive to someone about that time,
    it wasnt popular, i didnt want to go, i didnt want to stay here, and go to jail, i was to young to even know how to be on your own in a strange country such as canada. i laughed, i cried, and then the rest is history, sad history, that should never be repetead. when i say thanks for not evisorating me i say it sincerely.
    i wish i had some way to show folks here, as we struggle from day to day with our economical woes,(im as guilty as anyone) just what its like to never even know the word economy, to never have had a toy in your life, to watch all youve ever known burnt to the ground and your relatives taken away and killed for collaboration, (and that was subjective at times).
     
  18. Ddoright

    Ddoright Senior Member

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    :bigcry::gnorsi::peace:
     
  19. BeachBall

    BeachBall Nosey old moo

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    But you DO have a way to do that ... by telling people about it, telling them how it REALLY has, as opposed to the way the film-makers and revisionists would have us all believe it was.

    And you're already doing that, aren't you, just by posting here.

    Thank you for posting. Some of us will never know the truth, unless guys like you tell us.

    Peace.

    :daisy:
     
  20. Tyrsonswood

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    You didn't offend me, I was afraid we were getting our wires crossed.

    I was one of those "lucky" enough to not have to go because they had just ended the draft when I graduated HS but I had to carry a draft card in school knowing I was to be the next round of dead as soon as I graduated....

    I quotated lucky above because I've always felt somewhat guilty along with my relief at this timing in my life. Guys one or two years ahead of me in school weren't so lucky. Guys that I hung out with "smoking in the boys room" just disappeared from the planet for no reason that we could fathom...... Kids on the street where I grew up never came home, I never got to tell them how sorry I was......

    Thank you for your service, I'm sorry that you had to go at all.
     

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