I'm going to wear the hijab

Whatever floats your boat I guess, but you don't need religion, especially an oppressive one, to tell you that doing webcam shows or stripping for money are not the best things to do with life.

 

I had already given that up before my relgious experience happened. (It'll be 2 years this august since I gave my friend back her computer and webcam.)

And I disagree, I do need Allah(swt) in my life.
I've tried it without him and I prefer it with him.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=XA4TEGYEjPQ

any women that would knowingly convert to Islam is insane;

 

Good luck! Strength and purpose come from within. The rest is more or less an emotional crutch.

 

You guys DO realize that saudi arabia is a proud theocracy, right?

Their laws ARE religious laws.

Because something is not spelled out verbatim in the holy book of a religion, does not separate it from that religion. If the people think it's a part of the religion, it's part of the religion.

 

I found a great video by Yvonne Ridley the journalist that was capture by the Taliban.
It's a long video so anyone with ADHD can jump ahead to 1:10:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFqtZd0y_0g"]Yvonne Ridley - From Captive to Convert - YouTube

 

Stockholm syndrome ?

 

Happy draw muhammad day, everybody!

A day for showing muslims with the type of attitude that the OP has that the rest of the world is not to be, and will not be, constrained by their religious laws. If your religion says everyone must do everything, that's fine, if we're talking about everyone in your religion.

The rest of us will not be intimidated.

 

Yes Stockholm syndrome that must have been it.

I suppose she was bound to snap and loose it after the way the "smiling assasin" tortured her and the abuse she received from the prison camp's director for washing her underwear.

 

Not that she can see this but....Being nice to someone you've kidnapped doesn't really excuse one from having kidnapped a person.

 

whats wrong with catholics ?

 

such as ?

 

Beat your women if they disobey. Women are forced by law to cover up. Need I post
Here's some....
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/women/long.html


http://infidelsarecool.com/2008/01/top-10-quran-quotes-every-woman-must-see/
10. A husband has sex with his wife, as a plow goes into a field.

The Quran in Sura (Chapter) 2:223 says:

Your women are your fields, so go into your fields whichever way you like . . . . (MAS Abdel Haleem, The Qur’an, Oxford UP, 2004)

9. Husbands are a degree above their wives.

The Quran in Sura 2:228 says:

. . . Wives have the same rights as the husbands have on them in accordance with the generally known principles. Of course, men are a degree above them in status . . . (Sayyid Abul A’La Maududi, The Meaning of the Qur’an, vol. 1, p. 165)

8. A male gets a double share of the inheritance over that of a female.

The Quran in Sura 4:11 says:

The share of the male shall be twice that of a female . . . . (Maududi, vol. 1, p. 311)

7. A woman’s testimony counts half of a man’s testimony.

The Quran in Sura 2:282 says:

And let two men from among you bear witness to all such documents [contracts of loans without interest]. But if two men be not available, there should be one man and two women to bear witness so that if one of the women forgets (anything), the other may remind her. (Maududi, vol. 1, p. 205).

6. A wife may remarry her ex—husband if and only if she marries another man and then this second man divorces her.

The Quran in Sura 2:230 says:

And if the husband divorces his wife (for the third time), she shall not remain his lawful wife after this (absolute) divorce, unless she marries another husband and the second husband divorces her. [In that case] there is no harm if they [the first couple] remarry . . . . (Maududi, vol. 1, p. 165)

5. Slave—girls are sexual property for their male owners.

The Quran in Sura 4:24 says:

And forbidden to you are wedded wives of other people except those who have fallen in your hands [as prisoners of war] . . . (Maududi, vol. 1, p. 319).

4. A man may be polygamous with up to four wives.

The Quran in Sura 4:3 says:

And if you be apprehensive that you will not be able to do justice to the orphans, you may marry two or three or four women whom you choose. But if you apprehend that you might not be able to do justice to them, then marry only one wife, or marry those who have fallen in your possession. (Maududi, vol. 1, p. 305)

3. A husband may simply get rid of one of his undesirable wives.

The Quran in Sura 4:129 says:

It is not within your power to be perfectly equitable in your treatment with all your wives, even if you wish to be so; therefore, [in order to satisfy the dictates of Divine Law] do not lean towards one wife so as to leave the other in a state of suspense. (Maududi, vol. 1, p. 381)

2. Husbands may hit their wives even if the husbands merely fear highhandedness in their wives (quite apart from whether they actually are highhanded).

The Quran in Sura 4:34 says:

4:34 . . . If you fear highhandedness from your wives, remind them [of the teaching of God], then ignore them when you go to bed, then hit them. If they obey you, you have no right to act against them. God is most high and great. (Haleem, emphasis added)

1. Mature men are allowed to marry prepubescent girls.

The Quran in Sura 65:1, 4 says:

65:1 O Prophet, when you [and the believers] divorce women, divorce them for their prescribed waiting—period and count the waiting—period accurately . . . 4 And if you are in doubt about those of your women who have despaired of menstruation, (you should know that) their waiting period is three months, and the same applies to those who have not menstruated as yet. As for pregnant women, their period ends when they have delivered their burden. (Maududi, vol. 5, pp. 599 and 617, emphasis added)

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/010-women-worth-less.htm

The Qur'an:

Qur'an (4:11) - (Inheritance) "The male shall have the equal of the portion of two females" (see also verse 4:176). In Islam, sexism is mathematically established.

Qur'an (2:282) - (Court testimony) "And call to witness, from among your men, two witnesses. And if two men be not found then a man and two women." Muslim apologists offer creative explanations to explain why Allah felt that a man's testimony in court should be valued twice as highly as a woman's, but studies consistently show that women are actually less likely to tell lies than men, meaning that they would make more reliable witnesses.

Qur'an (2:228) - "and the men are a degree above them [women]"

Qur'an (5:6) - "And if ye are unclean, purify yourselves. And if ye are sick or on a journey, or one of you cometh from the closet, or ye have had contact with women, and ye find not water, then go to clean, high ground and rub your faces and your hands with some of it" Men are to rub dirt on their hands if there is no water to purify them following casual contact with a woman (such as shaking hands).

Qur'an (24:31) - Women are to lower their gaze around men, so they do not look them in the eye. (To be fair, men are told to do the same thing in the prior verse).

Qur'an (2:223) - "Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will..." A man has dominion over his wives' bodies as he does his land. This verse is overtly sexual. There is some dispute as to whether it is referring to the practice of anal intercourse, which it has been used historically to justify. If this is what Muhammad meant, however, then it would appear to contradict what he said in Muslim (8:3365).

Qur'an (4:3) - (Wife-to-husband ratio) "Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four" Inequality by numbers.

Qur'an (53:27) - "Those who believe not in the Hereafter, name the angels with female names." Angels are sublime beings, and would therefore be male.

Qur'an (4:24) and Qur'an (33:50) - A man is permitted to take women as sex slaves outside of marriage. Note that the verse distinguishes wives from captives (those whom they right hand possesses).


From the Hadith:



Bukhari (6:301) - "[Muhammad] said, 'Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?' They replied in the affirmative. He said, 'This is the deficiency in her intelligence.'"



Bukhari (6:301) - continued - "[Muhammad said] 'Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?' The women replied in the affirmative. He said, 'This is the deficiency in her religion.'" Allah has made women deficient in the practice of their religion as well, by giving them menstrual cycles.



Bukhari (2:28) - Women comprise the majority of Hell's occupants. This is important because the only women in heaven ever mentioned by Muhammad are the virgins who serve the sexual desires of men. (A weak Hadith, Kanz al-`ummal, 22:10, even suggests that 99% of women go to Hell).



Bukhari (62:81) - "The Prophet said: "'The stipulations most entitled to be abided by are those with which you are given the right to enjoy the (women's) private parts (i.e. the stipulations of the marriage contract).'" In other words, the most important thing that a woman brings to a marriage is between her legs.



Bukhari (62:58) - A woman presents herself in marriage to Muhammad, but he does not find her attractive, so he "donates" her on the spot to another man.



Muslim (4:1039) - "A'isha said [to Muhammad]: 'You have made us equal to the dogs and the asses'" These are the words of Muhammad's favorite wife, complaining of the role assigned to women under Islam.



Abu Dawud (2:704) - "...the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) said: When one of you prays without a sutrah, a dog, an ass, a pig, a Jew, a Magian, and a woman cut off his prayer, but it will suffice if they pass in front of him at a distance of over a stone's throw."



Abu Dawud (2155) - Women are compared to slaves and camels with regard to the "evil" in them.



Ishaq 593 - "As for Ali, he said, 'Women are plentiful, and you can easily change one for another.'" Ali was raised as a son by Muhammad. He was also the 4th caliph. This comment was made in Muhammad's presence without a word of rebuke from him.



Ishaq 593 - "From the captives of Hunayn, Allah's Messenger gave [his son-in-law] Ali a slave girl called Baytab and he gave [future Caliph] Uthman a slave girl called Zaynab and [future Caliph] Umar another." - Even in this world, Muhammad treated women like party favors, handing out slave girls to his cronies for sex.



Al-Tirmidhi 3272 - "When Allah's Messenger was asked which woman was best he replied, 'The one who pleases (her husband) when he looks at her, obeys him when he gives a command, and does not go against his wishes regarding her person or property by doing anything of which he disapproves'."



Tabari VIII:117 - The fate of more captured farm wives, whom the Muslims distributed amongst themselves as sex slaves: "Dihyah had asked the Messenger for Safiyah when the Prophet chose her for himself... the Apostle traded for Safiyah by giving Dihyah her two cousins. The women of Khaybar were distributed among the Muslims."



Tabari IX:137 - "Allah granted Rayhana of the Qurayza to Muhammad as booty."



Ishaq 969 - "Men were to lay injunctions on women lightly, for they were prisoners of men and had no control over their persons." - This same text also justifies beating women for flirting.



Tabari Vol 9, Number 1754 - "Treat women well, for they are [like] domestic animals with you and do not possess anything for themselves." From Muhammad's 'Farewell Sermon'.



Resistance isn't Futile; how do you explain all this? I know you've blocked everyone else who disagrees with you.
You also mentioned you're not supposed to speak to men.... yeah, that sounds fair. So what are you doing on a forum?

 

Child molestation, anti women's choice, anti gay, anti contraception....

 

^ Resistance to the truth is futile....

 

Yeah, that makes up for all the murder, rape and other awful things that the Taliban did, doesn't it? They were nice to this one woman they kidnapped... And probably intended to murder and rape. But they washed her undies, so that makes them awesome people.

You are aware that the Taliban are terrorists who are every bit as bad as western propaganda says they are, right? It doesn't make it okay just because this Stockholm Syndrome case says they were nice to her.

By the way, happy Draw a Picture of Mohammad Day, everyone! I drew one of him looking on with approval at the murder of filmmaker Theo Van Gogh. Maybe I should have gone with him looking on with approval at an honor killing of an apostate... Too late now. I already have the picture drawn.

 

I don't block people for disagreeing with me. I block them for being clowns. They're not intersted in talking. What they're intersted in is relieving their boredom or feeding their 'cyber egos'. Regardless of what others will say, virtually or in the real world, I'm no longer in the habit of allowing myself to be used. And I'm well within my rights to choose who I want to talk to and who I don't.

As for everything else...
The Qur'an makes it very clear that a woman is a man's equal both spiratually and in all other aspects.

But you never have read the Qur'an and any of its supporting literature. Instead you hold the same opinion fed to you by the corporate media and you quote the same sites that have an agenda against Islam. I've already said that these sites take things out of context, they poorly translate certain sentences and they outright make stuff up.

Therefore if you really want to know more, then perhaps you should educate yourself. Start by reading the material that you believe offends you. Because at least then you'll know for yourself if you're offended by it or if it's someone telling you to be offended.

And before the silly commentary comes around. Let me say for the record that I'm not telling you to convert. ( Allah(swt) chooses who believes and who wil remain closed to him. I have nothing to do with that processes.)

What's funny is that by their the comments I know that they never botherd to watch even 5 minutes of the video. What they're doing trying to play off of what I say so they can pick an argument.

Yvonne Ridley made it very clear in the first 10 minutes of the video that she had snuck in into Afghanistan... without a passport or visa and then got caught arrested trying sneak back out using an illegal smugglers route.

She also made if very clear that she was always given the key to her cell. People were worried that she wasn't eating.. And at one point the prison director had an officer give up his own private room to make her more comfortable. In the video she wore the exact prison clothes they gave her.

But hey... You're not obligated to watch the video and you're most certainly within your rights to protect your current beliefs. So rest assured that I have no intentions of arguing with you or trying to change your mind.

 

The thing about Stockholm Syndrome is that it makes the captives identify with their captors as a survival mechanism, and in some cases, they even stick up for their captors after they're free and away from the immediate danger their captors threatened them with. So, I really don't think I need to hear what she says to know that she's probably not telling the truth. She's not lying necessarily, but with Stockholm Syndrome, she's reasoned that her captors are the good guys in the entire situation.

Really, the idea that the Taliban treated a woman nicely is ridiculous. These are the guys who cut off the girl's nose because she refused to marry a man who I believe was her first cousin, who previously raped her.

The Taliban are not good people. You're trying to defend Islam, and frankly, when you defend people like the Taliban, you're hurting your argument by standing up for objectively horrible, brutal, evil people. You don't have to defend everything about your faith to defend it as a whole.

I've said this on many occasions in real life and a few times on here. I'd respect your religion a lot more if more Muslims were to stand up and say something like "Yeah, those fucks out there killing and stifling free speech in the name of my religion? Fuck them. They're assholes. They're horrible people." In fairness, I've heard that, but it's usually followed up with something like... "But the Americans, the Israelis and all this other stuff makes what they do understandable. The crusades happened hundreds of years ago and we can't let that shit go."

There's an old saying that evil only wins when good men do nothing. There are a lot of good people in Islam. But they're doing nothing, and the evil, extremist bastards are taking control of your religion and keeping it in the dark ages. I'm not seeing any serious resistance against that.

 

OH FUCK ME!!! GIVE ME BREAK!!!!!
Like you are now an expert on Islam and the Qur'an and all related writings after two weeks. LOL
You haven't been able to follow or comprehend the most simple and basic logic that has been presented to you here and yet you suddenly have great insight and understanding???????

You have got to be a troll just seeing what responses you get from your varied threads.
NOBODY is this FUCKING stupid and illiterate.

 

"they didn't accept my disingenuous bullshit as fact, so they must be clowns.... if they wanted to have a discussion, they'd obviously agree with me. Better black em"