Ignore 2012 fearmongering

Discussion in 'The Future' started by Harpo, Mar 15, 2010.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui7WOdHhvIA"]YouTube- Spirits in the material wold
     
  2. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    i disbelieve in the notion of everything happening on one particular special day, just because on some calender or another it happens to be one.

    i don't disbelieve in ongoing trends and their probable outcomes, but rather acknowledge that for the most part, they are things that take place over considerable spans of time.

    and while many changes may be uncomfortable, i certain don't see all, or even most change, as anything to be feared.

    what i do fear, is the increasing brutality and romanticizing of brutality, while population is continuing to increase and push the envelope of nature's recycling that makes our existence possible.

    but i don't see this as inevitable, but rather as a matter of cultural choice.
     
  3. JackFlash

    JackFlash Senior Member

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    A Tsunami is the result of an earthquake, and we've had no more of them then usual, just more centered in populated areas. We haven't even had more than usual massive quakes. Do the research........

    The Mayan calendar had to stop somewhere, infinity is rather difficult to obtain. And, if the Mayans had some sort of "special knowledge" their empire would still be here. Since their temples are in ruins, following in their footsteps would be a big mistake.
     
  4. FritzDaKatx2

    FritzDaKatx2 Vinegar Taster

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    Eh', I guess we'll all find out eventually. :rolleyes:
     
  5. wutthe4k

    wutthe4k Mr. Mojo Risin'

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    repent! the end is near!
     
  6. JackFlash

    JackFlash Senior Member

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    Which end? Near what?

    I have never pented, so how can I repent?

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  7. neuroptican

    neuroptican ...hadouken!

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    :) Well then you've never truly lived.
     
  8. JackFlash

    JackFlash Senior Member

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    Main Entry: pent
    Pronunciation: \ˈpent\
    Function: adjective
    Etymology: probably from past participle of obsolete English pend to confine
    Date: 1550
    : shut up : confined, repressed <a pent crowd> <pent-up feelings>

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  9. neuroptican

    neuroptican ...hadouken!

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    Yup it's an adjective.
     
  10. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    that's what i've always wondered myself.

    things i'd like to see end often don't
    things i'd like to not end sometimes do.
    whatever things end or don't, there never seems to run out of being things.
    even when when there are no longer humans to know if there are things or not, i'm willing to be there will still be things.

    the thing for humans to fear,
    is humans messing up things that humans need for there to be humans.

    humans pretend themselves are not the only thing they're worried about ending.

    i see a few humans pretending to care
    and even fewer acting like they actually do

    i don't believe in a diety who looses its temper,
    but in one who doesn't stand in the way of humans destroying themselves,
    if that's what they think will make them happy.
     
  11. JackFlash

    JackFlash Senior Member

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    Like the atmosphere and the oceans?


    [This page took 6 minutes to download, anybody know why? I went to 6 other threads this morning and each one took less than a minute.]

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  12. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    that IS rather precisely the general idea, yes.
    along with some of the things we're starting to see as a result of doing so.
     
  13. Harpo

    Harpo Member

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    or, possibly, you'd have to be an idiot to fall for all that nonsense all over again - remember 1984? remember the Millenium Bug? Three years from now everyone will pretend they weren't so gullible, and then they'll start scaremongering about some approaching asteroid or other.

    Fools, ain't we?
     
  14. JackFlash

    JackFlash Senior Member

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    I hate to be the one to burst your bubble, but we are not having any more earthquakes than normal for thousands of years; in fact we haven't had a mega-volcano erupt for millions of years and none are expected. Of all the things you've listed, there isn't much out of the ordinary for the Earth, except the increased strength of hurricanes in the Gulf as a result of global warming, and this is nothing that will destroy the Earth.

    It's a movie, and good movies are supposed to elicit an emotional response. It wasn't meant to be a prophecy.

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  15. walsh

    walsh Senior Member

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    Good luck to you, I hope those guns will be useful to you in 102 years from now.
     
  16. Gedio

    Gedio Member

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    Aligments happen on a fairly regular basis, chances our we've already seen one in our life time.
     
  17. dazedgatsby

    dazedgatsby shitheel

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    after 12/21/2012 im gonna laugh at everyone who believed the world would end... its gonna be soooo hilarious... :D

    what isnt hilarious right now is that motherfriggin firefox wont come up and im stuck with ie... :mad:
     
  18. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    there will be a post petroleum edin, complete with tigers and snakes.
    or there will be a post petroleum edin complete with tigers and snakes but without humans.
    or there will be a mars-like desert. also without humans.

    that is for the very far future though. or at least, not something that we will wake up with having happened over night the next morning.

    if its important to us for there to still be an us, we can stop using combustion to generate energy and propel transportation, and find some impartial way to curb excessive human fertility.

    if its not important enough to us, for us to do those two or three, and the energy one is fairly simple, as we have all the alternative means to keep technology and infrastructure and most of what we take for granted going, then it is of course also possible, even likely, for there at some point to no longer be "us".

    if we take down the web of life, then of course we fall with it. it is also possible to take ourselves down, while leaving a web of life, though possibly a much altered one.

    of course again, this probably a somewhat longer time frame then a few years or decades. though a span as short as a single century, could be long enough for it to happen. and of course, getting our heads back out into the air and sunshine from that dark stinky place, i believe we could make that transition in a decade or less.

    people will be motivated to do so when they see that they have to.
    what remains uncertain is whether that will occur before of after some unknown irreversible tipping point.

    i have every confidence we're capable of surviving ourselves, but at the same time that it remains up to us to do the work of doing so.
     
  19. Harpo

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    2013 will be just like 2012, which will be just like 2011, which.........
     
  20. wutthe4k

    wutthe4k Mr. Mojo Risin'

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    I hate to be the one to burst your bubble, but the world's largest volcano exists underneath Yellowstone National Park and is still active. Its eruption is long overdue and could happen any time. When it does eventually erupt, it will make Mt. Saint Helens look like a small fart.

     

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