If you're atheist why brother so much with G-d?

It shouldn't be, but don't act like that isn't what happens.

People are growing up understanding that information that is fed to them is factual knowledge whether they understand it or not.

And please don't tell me you believe people are born lazy.

If it has led you that far why stop there? What about the aspects of religion that contradict logic?

I am repeating myself.

This isn't about what someone is willing to do, we already agree on this subject. Its about WHY they are willing to do it.

1. I think you would agree that law isn't always based on facts and evidence.
2. Some people, like children, are just easily influenced. (Jury duty)

Exactly, it is either or.

And the cause for both events are the same.

When someone invests emotion into something they don't understand, It breeds things like racism and nationalism, which I am equally apprehensive about. Not all racists are violent, but it influences their decisions.

 

Ok, so you're saying that;

A, It's bigoted to be afraid of violent psycho's,

and, B, you're more dangerous, because there are a lot more religious terrorists, etc, than atheist ones, and you're spreading psychotic bullshit to them.

 

It's not surprising at all.

Atheist have thier belief system, too.

And incidently, the god of the quran is the same god in the bible.

 

And exactly what belief system do "we atheists" follow?

 

You KNOW.

 

They KNOW.

 

What's the difference?

 

I'm only attempting to explain to you that there are Atheist religions, and treating the belief like its the opposite of religion is a false dichotomy.

Religion and Atheism aren't anywhere near the same category.

 

Belief is belief-- and suckers are suckers.

Atheist religions? far beyond an oxymoron!

I maintian that you cannot prove the non-existence of god, that the atheist position is just as rigid and UNFOUNDED as any "theist" position, and that, indeed, the Scientific Description of Reality does not only fail to negate the existence of god but ACTUALLY LEAVES ROOM FOR IT-- depending on you Relative definition of god.

To state there is no god is no different than stating that there is a god.

Atheist are fools and fanatics in their own right, and , in fact, Atheism is a product of the Abrahamic religions... just like Judism, Christianity, and Islam [editorial comment deleted].

 

lol

 

They still refuse to accept the complete definition of what atheist even means. How can you even entertain any further dialogue with these completely ignorant fucktards?

 

I don't merely "not believe in god", I believe that there are no gods (which is a stronger position to hold). I am therefore truly atheist in that I explicitly reject the idea of there being any god or gods.

The monotheistic religions accept the existence of one (true) god, but deny that any other gods exist. Why accept that one god exists, but deny the existence of any other (such as Thor, Odin, Ra, Osiris, Zeus, etc.)

 

Geck:

lol


dnairb:

Sound grounds, but what are your views on us becoming gods?

 

Just need some clarification here.

By "Stronger position to hold", do you mean its exactly the same thing?

 

We cannot become gods, I believe, as there are no gods.

The two statements "I don't believe in god" and "I believe there is no god" are not necessarily the same, as the first implies that there is a god, yet the person making the statement does not believe in the existence of god. The second statement implies that the person explicitly rejects the existence of any god.

 

dnairb:

I don't see how it follows that because there are no gods, we cannot then become our idea of what gods are. Can you expand a little?






Relaxxx, relax a bit! We know what we mean! And no-one here is a fucktard!

 

I'm fucktarded on occasion.

 

That how we all get to not be fucktards. It's like there being no gods. That's how how we get to be them.

(Not that there's any need to tell you that.)

 

jmt's question could easily be why bother. The only reason I can see for bother is this instance is insecurity. Not insecurity about the issue, but personally insecure over all.

 

Well put. We're all of us put out to an extent. Luckily there are some of us who are not afraid of that. Our overall personal security comes only from eachother.