If you're atheist why brother so much with G-d?

Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by jmt, Sep 7, 2010.

  1. Dejavu

    Dejavu Until the great unbanning

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    Chapter13
    Sounds a bit dull. When will we have our fill? All I know is that everyone wants to be a god. Deep down, or long ago, or once before such and such. I love it!



    jmt
    Not when I go large. He won't want to either. :D
     
  2. relaxxx

    relaxxx Senior Member

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    You're absolutely right. That's why I come here and vent from time to time.

    If you see a drunk friend walking to his car are you going to avoid the confrontation and take it on FAITH that he'll make it home? God will look after him... God decides when we go anyway... right??

    FAITH KILLS and sometime we feel the need to brother people about it, I sometimes wish I DIDN'T CARE!
     
  3. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    I understand the sentiment however I don't understand the assignment of harm.
    Metabolism is a sacrificial fire, mortality is 100%. It is a distortion to claim that lives can be saved.
     
  4. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    I think more afraid to discover it is true.
     
  5. relaxxx

    relaxxx Senior Member

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    Salvation is a fantasy, quality and duration is real.
     
  6. Chapter13

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    we'll have our fill when we accept that the universe existed perfectly well before we were a part of it... and will do so long after we have left it
     
  7. Amyoxl

    Amyoxl Member

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    Two reasons; (1) ignorance is not blissful and clearing your mind of the shackles of ignorance frees it for personal growth so that maybe you can contribute to some thing useful to society; but (2) more importantly, religion is the number one reason for strife in the world and is the reason most wars are fought.
     
  8. Amyoxl

    Amyoxl Member

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    Now that's what I mean by ignorance - atheists by definition know there is no god, and belief in any religion is, be it christianity or islam, is equally sad.
     
  9. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    Which is more valuable, the life of ten minutes or the life of 80 years?
     
  10. RooRshack

    RooRshack On Sabbatical

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    Atheists don't KNOW shit, they BELIEVE, like the OP.
     
  11. relaxxx

    relaxxx Senior Member

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    Atheists neither KNOW or BELIEVE... it is the ABSENCE OF BELIEF!
    Is this concept too simple to fucking grasp or what!? JESUS CHRIST!!
     
  12. seizedbyanger

    seizedbyanger Banned

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    i tried to take this thread seriously but when i read the title the first thing in my head was 'my atheist what did what to my brother??'

    :K
     
  13. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    So relaxxx, which is more valuable, the life of ten minutes or the life of 80 years?
     
  14. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    :smilielol5:
    Step back, slowly read this statement to yourself, then maybe you will realize just how asinine it is.
     
  15. Wuji

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    Because people believing in God can have terrible consequences for me as a result of their behaviour. If they want to offer me free help on the part of doing Gods will then I wont stop them.
     
  16. RooRshack

    RooRshack On Sabbatical

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    Belief is like the fetal alcohol syndrome brother of knowledge.

    And atheists are, in fact, defined by their BELIEF that there is no god.
     
  17. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    You weren't supposed to explain it for him, I wanted to see if he could figure it out all on his own.:D
     
  18. heeh2

    heeh2 Senior Member

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    And what im saying is an idiot without a reason to kill wouldn't fly planes into a building.

    Yes, things like this happen because they are religious because the holy scripture is why they choose to do it.

    I'm concerned more with the capacity to do unreasonable things through this delusion called god.


    What are the principals of atheism?

    This statement tells me you don't know what the word means.

    This isn't true. Consider why its possible for religion to cause destruction.

    1. Harm is not just a physical thing
    2. This isn't about the manifestation of Harm, its about why its possible.
    3. No one ever said that its religion alone causing harm on earth. Its just a fact that religion is apart it.

    Most atheists in the united states were raised by religious parents; Learning something through lineage would require a parent teach it to you.

    It is human nature to recognize patters, not to indulge in whimsical delusions.


    Believe it or not, it happens.

    9-11 happened and some fundamentalist judge overturned prop 8
     
  19. Dejavu

    Dejavu Until the great unbanning

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    Chapter13:
    I accept both parts of that that completely. Not everyone can. However, what is it exactly that makes you think we have to leave? As I said in another thread, is it possible that consciousness could reach a level where it may hold matter to itself indefinitely?

    Roorshack:
    I could have sworn there was more to me than that! I'll accept what I'm given though.
     
  20. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    Probably because a lot of people want to be right.


    This is an excellent point. I've never heard an athiest go after buddha, muhammad, ganesh, etc. They only seem to go after Jesus and God (the christian father). Most likely because they often don't confront followers of those other faiths, also because followers of those other faiths are probably not as outspoken about their beliefs. But nonetheless, good point.
     

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