If you're atheist why brother so much with G-d?

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We bother with God because we want to be gods. Under certain conditions we can become them. Religious people need to be shown how, and we're far from condescending when it comes down to it. We like to pull faces, not guns. Pretty much, we are guns.

better start wearing bulletproof godbags! lol

 

Yeah, the Crusades and the Inquisition were some seriously horrible mishaps.
When did all that end, like 700 years ago?

That's kind of my point.
If the majority of religious people are just as peaceful as atheists (not to give the impression that atheism is the paragon of peace), what is the point of decrying the entire establishment on the basis of a few bad eggs (who would likely be bad eggs without the religious disposition anyways)?

And Christianity is derived from love and forgiveness. Ideals don't always match up with their human counterparts.
Maybe unadulterated atheism is derived from logic, but that simply isn't the case with some, hence militant atheism.
There simply no logical reason to paint one doctrine "good" and the other one "bad". It's the followers who make the thing good or bad, not the thing itself, and there are good and bad followers of any paradigm, ideal, belief, or thought.

 

lol neodude, you're an agnostic? Or perhaps you're so enlightened that you refuse to take a position in relation to "God"?!

What sort of atheist am I?! (in this game you are allowed to use pictures.)

 

I honestly don't know what I am, and I'm sorry but I don't know what you are either.
I'm just taking this position because I disagree with the sentiment that religion is intrinsically harmful.

 

I'm this sort...




...not this sort




ZW

 

So you're saying you're not an atheist at all?

That's agnostic.

 

Sez you...

ZW

 

They sort of got the hairy arms right, but I don't wear a loin cloth any more.

 

Fair enough...

ZW

 

I don't think you understand that these problems are not limited by time, but existence.

Religion has been doing this since the beginning of recorded history. And probably before that.

Because they still have the capacity to do unreasonable things because of their unreasonable beliefs.

A racist man is only capable of killing someone because of their color because he is racist.

Its the same case with everyone that doesn't understand what they believe.

No.
Christianity is usually derived through lineage. No one ever woke up one day without prior knowledge of the bible and said "I love everyone in the world, I think I'l call myself a Christian now".

What do you mean?

You can at least agree that there is such thing as a false statement and a true one right?

People all over the world accept the word of holy scripture as TRUTH.

If a book says "You should kill Jewish people" can you really get mad at someone for "misunderstanding" the sentence, and killing Jews?

 

Atheists acknowledge god?

Oxymoron!

I'm fairly comfortable sitting back and watching religious factions kill each other off. It's only when their organized ignorance's infringe on my personal freedoms or quality of life that it really starts to 'brother' me.

 

What I'm saying is, religion does not cause the vast majority of people to do violent things on the basis that they are religious. If you think otherwise, then you really need to get out more. Labeling the whole thing a "hazard" because of an incredibly small minority is a serious misnomer. Should we seek to destroy Islam because a handful of men flew some planes into buildings? Should we reject the principle of atheism because Stalin promoted state atheism to the point of waging terror campaigns against believers?

You are making a blanket statement about religion, but for the vast majority of people, it simply isn't a hazard. It's a non-issue.

There is a difference between a belief and what people think should be done about that belief. We can all agree that racism is unreasonable, because it's mere existence actively harms others. This isn't the case with religion. There are violent religious people and non-violent religious people, so there must be some factor other than "religion" that is the cause of the violence.

If you are attempting to go down the "people are naturally atheist" path, don't bother. Christianity is learned through lineage, just as Atheism is. If anything, it's human nature to have beliefs following mystical thought patterns. ("Today I ran to the bus and something good happened to me; If I run to the bus next week maybe something good will happen to me again")

Religions evolve. Many people all over the world think that the Bible is the ordained Word of God, and the Bible also happens to say some pretty nasty things in it. Does this mean that all of those people follow those things?

 

Fairly comfortable is a level of discomfort. Personal freedoms are personally taken. I don't see that you are "unaffected"

 

Our beliefs develop over time so first causes become obscured. There are many unexamined assumptions programed into us because we are taught to conform rather than understand.

 

Gods are Immortal.....there for your not a god.

 

He's godzilla

 

Glad you've worked that one out! You don't want me to be one. You should say it outright. It's disheartening, but what can I say?! lol

Religious people are so cute!

 

atheists i know don't really care if others believe in gods or not.... they made their decision and just got on with their lives

 

Allah can kick your ass.