If you're atheist why brother so much with G-d?

Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by jmt, Sep 7, 2010.

  1. terrak

    terrak Guest

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    lol, RooRshack
     
  2. relaxxx

    relaxxx Senior Member

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    Non-fucking-sense!

    "Jesus died for your sins" conveys the same moral meaning or message as "Jesus died so you can sin"...

    It's just one big excuse, a delusional egotistical free pass to break your own moral code as much as you want. Forgiveness is just one hallucinogenic fantasy away. It's a selfish, self gratifying, delusional pseudo morality superiority religious trip... high on your own righteousness - socially addictive, contagious and hereditary mental illness called religion.
     
  3. Lostthoughts

    Lostthoughts Thostloughts

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  4. RooRshack

    RooRshack On Sabbatical

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    If you're religious, why bother so much with atheists?

    Or with other religions? Why devote so much effort to destroying the last indigenous cultures left around the world?

    Governments that let in christian missionaries are murdering cultures, and deserve NO respect, even less than the missionaries.

    *edit* ooh, JMT doesn't like this post, "bcuz" it's about christians destroying other cultures, and that's getting old. Well I agree, it's very old, stop and then you won't have to -rep me for telling the truth. Since you read my post, why don't you answer, why bother so much with atheists? You made a whole thread about us, you're obviously not content being christian for yourself. And that's what leads to the cultural destruction I'm talking about. I assume you deducted rep from me because you think missionaries are doing a good thing.
     
  5. themnax

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    well i'm not an atheist in as much as i believe there are all sorts of neat fun invisible things, and maybe one that is a whole lot bigger and more powerful then all the rest of them.

    i am, however, a whole lot more interested in the kind of world we all have to live in, then in what anyone claims to, pretends to, or actually does, believe in.

    i also have not observed the homogenizing of culture by the chauvinistic impulse, of any belief, to have been entirely, or even primarily beneficial.
     
  6. lipstick_lezy

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    I was referring to being forgiven by god or jesus or whatever, not us forgiving others, that is fine with me and makes sense.
     
  7. lipstick_lezy

    lipstick_lezy Member

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    LOL that is amazing and hilarious and so true!
     
  8. RooRshack

    RooRshack On Sabbatical

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    thankee, thankee.... I didn't draw it, /b/ did, but I rather like it too.
     
  9. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    whats the differences from a murder killing one person compared to one thats killed hundreds?
     
  10. heeh2

    heeh2 Senior Member

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    Hundreds of murders is the difference....what a silly question

    Though I believe lipstick_lezy was talking about
    different sins, and not different quantities of the same sin.
     
  11. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    hows is one state of mind any more different from a one person killer to a onslaught killer?
     
  12. heeh2

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    If their reason for murder are identical, there is no difference.

    But I believe lipstick_lezy was talking about
    different sins, and not different quantities of the same sin.

    As in, is stealing as bad as murder; Or is homosexuality wrong the same way
    murder is.
     
  13. lipstick_lezy

    lipstick_lezy Member

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    it would be much different if someone killed someone out of self defense than out of cold blood for example, and if one murderer has the self control to hold back and only kills one person instead of hudreds, I think that makes that killer just that much better I guess. Thats my opinion on that, but yes, I was talking about completely different sins being viewed by god as equal, not different levels of the same sin. My dad is always trying to convert me to Christianity and he always seems to think it will appeal to me that I will be forgiven for anything and everything. I just don't understand that. I'm not seeking forgivenes, I don't want to be forgiven for anything, I don't have the guilt that religious people feel.
     
  14. Deranged

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    smug sense of superiority
     
  15. willedwill

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    G-d is an American communications plot to discredit the Japanese from their expert handling of the science/culture issues of the times. The American way is the know how way to make G-d a useful invention for communicating the eventual success of It's own business rule of the Planet.
     
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    G-d is being at home in the universe. What have I proven; still all of you are out of reach and still G-d to me.
     
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    Why does the idea that there are no gods get such a bad wrap......Its a falsifiable claim.
     
  19. relaxxx

    relaxxx Senior Member

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    Excellent video, watching it should be a prerequisite to posting in this forum.
     
  20. SunLion

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    It is possible to be christian and still be ethical. It is NOT possible to get ethics FROM christianity however because vicarious redemption itself is a deeply immoral concept. Likewise the whole heaven/hell thing- it's probably the single most evil and harmful "idea" ever spread among humans.

    Jesus's threats of eternal Hellfire reveal him to be nothing less than a monster. Or would be had he even existed. The god of the "old testament" is a description of ultimate evil that almost can't be topped, yet somehow Jesus actually managed to be worse.

    While science cannot prove there is NO gawwwd, science has proven absolutely that there is no gawwwd of the type described in the Babble, you know, one that answers our prayers with something other than a silent "FUCK YOU."

    PS- If there was a god, I would devote the rest of my life to finding and killing that piece of shit and his terroristic bastard son.
     

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