If you do not believe in God, you must not have read the Bible

Telling me what to work on is not answering the question.

So denying what the Holy Spirit has done in the past is your idea.

and yet you keep saying the Bible was by men and implying that the Holy Spirit had nothing to do with it.

Oh and the question is still: do we trust the Holy Spirit that bore them along or are we to trust the "holy spirit" that tells you to deny what the Holy Spirit has done in the past?

 

You keep saying you have a hot line to the "Holy Spirit" and I don't, so why don't you ask it the question; do we trust the Holy Spirit that bore them along or are we to trust the "holy spirit" that tells you to deny what the Holy Spirit has done in the past?

 

Well for one, why do I keep throwing pearls before swine?

 

Must keep my strength up. Thank you for watchin our backs.

 

OOooooh thedope knows stuff and can write things in a really long, boring way that muddies the point and makes comprehension a goal that's a lot further than in should be, I'm so impressed that I think I'll shed all my former beliefs and base my life upon what he says!

Why don't you read what you write and see if it's actually relevant? And if it is relevant, be kind to us and reduce it from an unnecessary 5 million words to just a few? Why do you love being bogged down in petty arguments? I just can't understand it, for someone that thinks they're so smart you really don't act it. Pseudo-intellectual, I think is the word..? Correct me if I'm wrong, which I'm sure you won't hesitate in doing anyway because what I said is probably wrong because you did not say it.

I love the way you take the metaphorical as literal whenever it suits you and vice versa, that's just pure class. Pure passive-aggressive, know-it-all class. I suggest you go and read the bible, the Quran and any other books of that nature and have a ruddy good think. By yourself. Without typing. Without breathing, too, if possible.

 

Your question is meaningless to me because it is based on assumptions I don't agree with. I have no need to ask it. I encourage you to invite the holy spirit in that it may also "teach you all things". I encourage you to ask the holy spirit if you have a question of authority. I have told you that I asked the holy spirit to teach me and that the holy spirit sees both the son that god has created forever in his own likeness and image, and the error in perception that the son has made of his brother through his "lesson of guilt", his belief in the slander against the son of god.

In secular terms "nobody is perfect" and everyone is suspect even to the point of scanning for defect in the womb. It is the grandiose self image that the son can usurp the power of gods judgment or living word, or that man is not in accord with "nature". The sabbath was made for man not man for the sabbath. If the light in you be darkness, then how great the darkness. How can man be redeemed when given the choice between innocence and guilt he chooses guilt.

Jesus taught forgiveness as the remedy for guilt. I desire mercy, not sacrifice. This way he restores the sight of the blind who lead the blind into a pit of unholiness, un-wholeness, or brokenness. Some would teach that salvation from bondage, the truth setting us free, is the blood sacrifice of the son of god. They would try and reconcile these two disparate teachings mercy and sacrifice, and that is where you see the hypocritical dynamic between those who insist others are guilty and they will pay and their assurance that they are right with god because they believe god had sacrificed his son as proxy and thus saving them from their own consequences.

 

^your mockery is misapprehended

 

Are you calling me swine then? You can keep your pearls to yourself dear, I am not that kind of guy.

One question was what is "prophecy of scripture"?
As an adjunct to it, is genealogy prophecy of scripture?
Is "truly truly I say to you unless you eat the flesh of the son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you," a prophecy of scripture?

 

I don't know what you mean.

 

Hot damn, party of the year, ring the bells loud and true!!!!

Come on thedope, we all knew what he meant, why don't you? Is it because it was only one sentence?

 

To each their own. I use my powers of distinction to determine what a thing is for and is it the same or is it different, not to decide if it is good or bad.

I never claimed I was smart, you did.
Of myself I would say I am called many things and I am those things to those people at those times, but if you were with me long you would see that I am none in particular.

What specifically are you having trouble with? Relevant to who or what? I don't love being bogged down in petty arguments. Have you been spying on me to find out who I'm lovin on? Are you being petty and I missed it?
What I love is giving light to superstition, of hopefully shining away the barriers we have built against the perception of innocence. I also enjoy reflection and stimulating thought.

So you are developing an affection for me. By the way, why do you think you are having trouble gaining satisfaction with me in this conversation?

(hint, it's your narrative, the world is for you as you insist it is)

 

Could you explain it?

 

Yeah

 

I see you are sensitive to this issue. I mention it as you know because because you have demonstrated it before and on this occasion I had already answered you but you did not recognize it because you thought it would appear in the form that you set up for me. Just like you attempt to guide my response with your next question, see below.

In your search for signs of compliance instead of understanding, your situational awareness suffers.

No, I have not denied the holy spirit.

No, the inference that the holy spirit had nothing to do with it is yours. I said men wrote it, it was not written with one mind and as it comes down to us it is the combination of many minds. Men voted on and argued over official doctrine, interpretation of scripture. What I do deny, is that the bible interprets itself. As far as the holy spirit guiding the prophecy of scripture, it is not a past tense thing. Scripture is still being written, prophecy is still being made and the bible is still being translated and reworked toward modern idiom.

I answered you already. If you have a question about authority ask the holy spirit, not Strongs concordance to try and figure it out by the preponderance of "contextual evidence", that you already do. I told you I have not denied the holy spirit. I also told you your question is based on assumptions I do not agree with.

 

Doesn't look like flesh to me.

 

Well so much for getting an answer to the question from you.

 

Did I say you were swine? You seem a bit defensive.

I would say prophecy that is in the Scriptures.

Who's genealogy? Yours? If so, then no, it is not prophecy.

Given the broadest sense of the word, I would have to say yes.

 

No, I'm not, just pointing out the fact that saying I need to work something does not answer the question asked.

Well I was kind of hoping that when I ask you a question that you would answer it in the form of an answer but I guess that was too much to hope for.

Well I was hoping that you would comply by answering the question.

So you say but you keep saying the Bible was written by men, thus implying that it was their personal opinion and they were not borne along by Holy Spirit as they wrote. That is a denial of the works of the Holy Spirit.

Okay I'll bite, what was the role you feel the Holy Spirit played in the writing of the Bible?

And you continue say that even though I've shown you several examples of how it does.

Well nothing new has been added to the Bible for about two thousand years so where are these new scriptures being written down?

I have no question about "authority" and have no idea what in the world you are talking about. Also if I have a question I ask Jehovah for the answer, I believe it was Jesus that said ask the father that he may give it to you. Perhaps you would be so kind to show us where Jesus said we should ask the Holy Spirit?

The lady doth protest to much me thinks.

 

It's used in scripture to represent Jesus, such as by his stripes we are healed, and let us be as unleavened bread. The grill marks can be compared to the lashing Jesus took, so in a way it does look like flesh, at least symbolically.

 

ugh, the worst things about christianity

the cannibalism, the suicide, the magic trick

[followed almost immediately by the disease of evangelism]