If i were a boy

Discussion in 'New Releases' started by stacy lulu, Dec 13, 2008.

  1. MaryJBlaze

    MaryJBlaze eleven

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    i though janet jackson is with jermaine dupris?
    rhianna is rollin solo
    and beyonce is married to jayz?!

    guess im not up to date on my celeb gossip......
     
  2. lilbear

    lilbear Don't prick a raw paw!

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    I thought Rihanna was rollin with Chris Brown,did they break up???
     
  3. MaryJBlaze

    MaryJBlaze eleven

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    who the hell is chris brown?
     
  4. Bonsai Ent

    Bonsai Ent Member

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    Aside from the fact that the singer in question was happily married last time I checked,

    Your comment is a perfect example of how men are stereotyped these days. I know hundreds of really nice guys, who have good jobs, are intelligent, caring and have all their own teeth and fingers. And yet get completely ignored by women. Because people just love to sing about how terrible men are, but when confronted with the choice of dating a sane human being, or a "bad boy" time and time again people go for the so-called bad boy.

    I've really very little sympathy for girls who keep dating jerks and then whine about it, because it is self-inflicted.

    It isn't remotely hard to find a nice bloke, and most men are not anything like the arsehole depicted in her song.

    The song isn't about cruel people abusing nice people, it's specifically gender oriented, with the girl being the caring doting one, and the man being the worthless good-for-nothing.

    It's tired, boring and sexist.*

    A far superior song is Phoebe Kreutz's "Boo Frickin' Hoo"
    :p

    http://www.stumbleaudio.com/#phoebe2/11




    *Yes it's only a song, but they play it on the radio about 50 times a day at work. Someone should write a song about how horrible that is
     
  5. stacy lulu

    stacy lulu yeeeaah buddy

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    1. shes married but she might be NOT talking about herself either, she might be talking about the girls that had a guy not listen or love them

    2. yeah thats YOU. Most guys I know are jerks and so this song just reminds me of how to stay away from them. and the few nice guys i do know. ARE TAKEN, i never ignore nice guys nor girls who grow the fuck up

    3. yeah the "bad boy" image, if you're in middle school...c'mon..

    4. most men are not i agree but shes representing the guys that DID do her/people wrong and telling them to basically grow up or its going to continue. I know this because i know guys exactly this way, they're little boys and is 21-23

    5. oh just like every other song? this just happens to be the one i really like and i posted...and every ignorant person has to disagree wih me cause obviously you've never seen or experience boys like that :confused: thats gotta be it cause anyone who likes this song, had the same bad experience.

    its not like im saying HATE ALL GUYS. its a strong passionate song. I dont have a grudge against guys at all. I just like this song for god sakes :mad:


    :hat:
     
  6. infinito

    infinito Member

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    Hahahahah

    Thanks for clearing that up. Pop music is just so darn confusing!
     
  7. Therese Aline

    Therese Aline Slave to the man

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    It sounds to me like he cheated on her. She didn't say it, but she kind of alluded to it.

    "It's a little too late for you to come back
    Say its just a mistake
    Think I'd forgive you like that
    If you thought I would wait for you
    You thought wrong"

    The song isn't sexist, it's about wishing her man is a better man and how he fucked up, and how much it hurt her.

    This is my sad song at the moment. I don't even like Beyonce but it's not half bad and I can relate a little bit.
     
  8. Cherea

    Cherea Senior Member

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    The song perpetuates the mathematically impossible theory that men cheat more than women. When, obviously, if we're talking about heterosexual relationships- sex involves a man and a woman on every single occasion to the decimal point.

    So therefore, women cheat just as much as men because they have the exact same number of sex relations as men.

    But prejudice always does the same thing, it falsifies reality to justify itself. So when you see a guy cheating, it's because "guys cheat." When you see a girl cheat, she is acting "unlike a girl."

    And stacy, I know plenty of guys who are not taken and who are nice guys but they are "just" nice guys to girls, and therefore not eligible for romantic relationships.
     
  9. Therese Aline

    Therese Aline Slave to the man

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    Jesus Christ people. She's talking about one man.
     
  10. Cherea

    Cherea Senior Member

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    If I were a boy. "A" boy is a generic statement. Ask any english teacher.

    She's not talking about Alexander or Tim. She's talking about a generic person of the male gender.

    And supposedly that implies that if she was a generic person of that gender, she wouldn't get cheated on, and she could be insensitive with impunity.

    Crap.
     
  11. stacy lulu

    stacy lulu yeeeaah buddy

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    Thats still wrong. SHes either talking about that man or talking about the guys that CHEATED or done girls wrong


    its not that hard to figure out
     
  12. Cherea

    Cherea Senior Member

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    How would you take this statement?

    "If I was a girl, I could get free drinks, have doors open for me, have guys drive me around and not pay for gas, have my pick of guys from the many who approach me every time I go to the bar, have them buy me gifts without returning the favor, and not care if a guy's heart is broken if he is just a nice guy and not confident enough for me, and never work a day in my life and just go dress up with the girls."
     
  13. Cherea

    Cherea Senior Member

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    I wouldn't have any problem with the song if the title was, "If I was a cheater."
     
  14. stacy lulu

    stacy lulu yeeeaah buddy

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    Im not gonna even argue with that because thats just a pointless statement. Its silly

    This is why guys dont understand, the men that shes talking about, literally do that stuff. but your surrounding by nice guys so you wouldnt understand :rolleyes:

    im done with this, I made my point and i Know im right- no sense in dragging this on. just for entertainment now
     
  15. Cherea

    Cherea Senior Member

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    Haha. Do you really think there aren't women who live the way I described? I've personally met quite a few.

    Maybe guys don't understand your plight. But you certainly aren't making any effort to understand ours with your "I know I'm right so let's move on" attitude.
     
  16. stacy lulu

    stacy lulu yeeeaah buddy

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    Its a stupid argument chera. good for you if you met those kind of women. it has no effect on me and im sure theres a song out there about them, look ay all the rap songs. they degrade women but are we bitchin? NO because we have no affect on it we are not them

    You are not the guy that shes desribing are you? I hope not so why are you here? Just arguing for the fun

    Again, it makes it obvious shes not talking about all men and if you think its another song to make girls think that all men are like that. then they just gotta grow up.
     
  17. Cherea

    Cherea Senior Member

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    I have a problem with stereotypical rap songs too, for the same reason. :cheers2:

    Stacy, if you don't want to talk about it- don't. I'm not arguing, I'm saying how I feel. I am personally offended by the song, and I feel I have a legitimate reason not to wish my gender associated with behavior that is perpetrated by both men and women.

    P.S. It doesn't mean that you can't enjoy the song, or the feelings that it brings you. So long as you understand the song is biased. The same way I can listen to rap, but with a grain of salt.
     
  18. stacy lulu

    stacy lulu yeeeaah buddy

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    I understand but i dont think its biased at all. Shes not talking about all men. if she said "all guys are boys and naive" Id agree with you but she isnt and thats my personal thoughts :)
     
  19. Cherea

    Cherea Senior Member

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    Stace! :) I'm not arguing with you...but I think you're making excuses for the song just because you like it. I never said you have to hate the song. Hell, I've washed dishes singing to it on my radio as well :p

    BUT, if you say "if I was a boy" - that means two things:

    1) you are talking about boys (plural) - notice she didn't say what kind of boys, like "cheating boys"

    2) you are talking about things that don't relate to women

    But it so happens that women cheat and are insensitive just as much as men. :angelsad2:
     
  20. stacy lulu

    stacy lulu yeeeaah buddy

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    but then she could be writing about experiences. Im sure not all guys make their friends stand up for em or go out late, whatever but shes explaining what the cheating kind do. notice in the video they turn around and say "its not like im sleeping with her" cheating guys say that- most do. They act like their girls are gettin in their business all the time or they play it cool and smooth and get their friends to stick up for em

    Shes saying if she was that kind of guy, she'd be better and treat women good
     

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