If God Is Real

I don't think it implies that mathematics is ever "wrong".

 

Interesting, I was doing some beginner computer coding exercises the other day and my code wouldn't run on one browser, so I downloaded a different browser and it ran fine. Perhaps that was an example of Gödel's theorem in action.

 

It is not a problem. Influences if they do exist depend of radiant vectors. To use an analogy during a season everyone is under the influence of that season. Everyone though doesn't behave the same way because it is summer time. They might be more prone to wearing shorts for example in the summer than in the winter. Astrological influences if any are seasonal influences rather than individual destinies. Another way to look at it would be like the neighborhood you are born into.

There are just so many vectors you can have in the solar orbit and all vectors influence everyone. That is why it is possible to standardize descriptions. Each planet has is peculiar influence in a particular area of the human psyche. They call venus the planet of love and mars the planet of war, mercury as i said influences communication. As saturn makes what is called a transit you are likely to be dealing with practical matters in a serious way. This example in the previous sentence is a kind of prediction that can be verified by personal experience. It is a generalized description that happens to apply well to the particular specifics those being you will be forced to take life more seriously than you are comfortably accustomed to for a time. These periods are influential to mood. Their relevance can only be seen in conjunction with serious observation of your subjective space in conjunction with observation of the heavens and this is how the descriptions came about in the first place. We observe the heavenly motion and our relative position to it through the math.

As I described I have become familiar with some of these things to the extent I have by first coming to the awareness that I was in a remarkable space and this reminded me to check positions. I did not first check positions and decide if I was under the influence which is a good way to suggestively delude yourself as in mr writers movie where the guy says he is going to release a scent into the room and asked people to raise their hands if they smelled it, when there in fact was no scent released. Even so people claimed they smelled it. I have compiled dozens of examples by this method over the years and it did take years considering the way I went about it. I only notice remarkable states on rare occasions.

 

so in essence you are saying that we are programmed?
There is no spontaneity...no surprises...no fun....just beings following along the dots?

 

sufficiently complex programs hold many surprises.

 

Latitude and longitude of your birthplace. Time of birth local standard time. According to the calendar your birthday is taken from. You do not need to account for elevation. As i said before, that time and location serves as the starting point from which vectors are calculated progressively over time from that position giving your current days position etc.

 

Lots of dots lots of ways to make connections. Connections though are not only made for you but by you.

 

no, things are not always that malleable

 

I am saying there are enough dots and enough ways to make connections to present novelty.

 

I recently read Free will by Sam Harris, who I think has been mentioned in this thread already. In the book, Harris suggests Free Will is an illusion, I don't think he approaches the issue as if we are being programmed really, rather that we are subject to a deterministic enviornment, so all our decisions and experience are based off the series of prior events and neurological development.

The book kind of had me puzzled in a similar way, gripping with the sense of autonomy and alot of the emotions and thoughts that come with that.

 

you just made the decision to post here now because of something you read on your computer. The computer decided to send an HTTP query to a webserver which decided to reply, your computer decided to show you the reply. These pieces of machinery are all involved in a causal loop.

The "decision engine" is only partly within us, mostly it is out there. yes you can make decisions entirely on your own but this is rarely the case even if it isnt always obvious. What would you do if there truly was "nothing to be done"?

 

yeah, it is grapplng and upsetting sort of.....
I like to feel I have choices about my own life.....

 

the subtlest thing can change the course of your entire day, and you may never realize it. we are closer to "being" the computer program rather than the ones writing it. from this perspective we are not aware of the multitude of ways that the program can branch.

if God were real, id imagine he would write a perfect program and get it right the first time. of course this is an impossible thing to ask and the program we're part of is full of bugs ... or just interesting features if you prefer but certain features i find it hard to believe would be implemented intentionally unless there was the intention of harm.

 

I think Harris would argue that there are NO decisions we make on our own. That given the same variables if there was "nothing to done" in my mind, I'd be doing the same exact thing

This is why I found the "mathematics is never wrong" removed from applications assertion kind of trite. the same sort of reasoning can be applied to pretty much anything.

 

What constitutes right? What bug is in the program? You can't count these as indicative of what is in energetic terms, they are qualifications representing no standard metric. Harm, it's existence and degree, are individually construed.

 

Cultivate the garden of my inner space as a way of life. Seeing the fact that nothing need be done, it freed me up to do what I want to do.

 

i use specific terms to avoid painting with a too broad brush those who do not deserve to be painted with it.

if god is real, we did not invent that god,

what we did invent, is everything we think we know about it.

the difficulty people have, making that distinction, makes no sense to me.

 

When i used the word "right, i used it in such a way to say correct, or "as intended". I would call things like cancer, mental illness and death "bugs". And then we have actual bugs, some of them harmful to us, bacteria that cause diseases an of course actual viruses. Why do these vulnerabilities exist and why havent they been fixed, that task instead instead being delegated to us?

 

Wouldn't in that case "what you want to do", be something to be done?

 

We don't invent anything we know, it is revealed. We invent things using our knowledge or imagination. Eureka, the sounds in my mind just come to me.

The body's purpose is communication. Nothing is wasted. Cancer is an accurate communication. As are the other things you mention. Life in every turn only yields to more life. A sorrow is comforted. We are stirred from comfort and find it again. Life is a series of sensations some we call pleasant and some not so. However you needn't classify your experience that way, it is not necessary to do so in order to organize your life. However it is essential if you don't know how to organize it. Taste is traffic control for the unintended. We aren't best at fixing the world, we are still discovering it's proportions. We are best when we appreciate it.