If God is just, how can he damn those who never hear his son's gospel?

Ignorance is bliss

 

I'd say it goes beyond that. Ignorance shouldn't = salvation. No, that's almost as bad as damning the ignorant. Worse I guess. But anything on the topic is silly. If there's a hell you end up there for what you do and don't do. Not for praying to the wrong God. I believe Jesus is one way to avoid it though.

But read the Bhagavad Gita, please, and consider how much of what's in that book is also at the heart of the bible. That text seems a lot more relevant to life as it is right now, and it mentions hell as well, and the attitude that takes you there.

I have far more faith in that book than in the bible. No crazy commandments concerning diet and dress, nor does it instruct one to beat one's children or stone heathens to death.

 

^ I don't follow the Bible. I read it a lot when I was younger though. I was just trying to help answer the question.

 

What are you basing this on ? Because the bible (new testament)says that belief in Christ is the only way to salvation ? It says Only those who don't believe that Jesus was the son of God , are doomed to hell . That those who believe are saved . Which means they would of had to hear the words of Christ (new testament) in the first place to either accept it as truth , or reject it , and be damned . After that the only debate is ( which has been long running by theologians ) is , can one ever lose salvation once given ? In other words through other sins like murder .Those that never heard the word are not damned .

God ,would no more punnish those who have never heard the word then he would babies that die in crib death , or mentally challenged people who couldn't understand it . They are not damned , it's nonsense . How fair and just would that be ? And judgement hasn't happened yet . Those who never heard , have heard if not here than the spirit world .

Man thinks he's God , he is not ! If he were we would be living in a far better place on this earth . If he were would we be living on the eve of our own destruction ? Arrogance and pride . Do you really believe the human race was meant to live this way ?

How can the finite limited mind of man hope to understand the infinite and boundless mind of God? Are there not answers beyond our comprehension? Are there no questions without answers ?

Everyone is still waiting for a messiah , the jews , the muslims and others i'm sure . As late as the hour is on the time line of man . Could it not just be , that indeed the messiah has come over 2,000 years just like it says ? Because if there is not a God , and man is God, and can only rely on himself . Then I think it's pretty clear through our track record that our destruction is right around the corner . In which case it will be the end , and nothing really matters anyway .

 

There is a hell , it was created by people that believe in it and know they belong there . It is a part of the astral plane . There are also many kind of heaven , depending on the belief of the person . We judge our selvs , not God .. desert rat

 

why do you say that? why would we judge ourselves?

all judgement has been passed over to the Son, Jesus.

that's like saying you don't believe in gravity. your still going to go splat after you jump off a building. universal truths.

that's the wrong attitude.

i'd continue talking with you but you seem to not want to listen to what people have to say about christianity but rather espouse your own deluded views even though we have told you they are wrong.

 

People believe what they believe. They also judge what they judge.

 

it is that simple, but also it isn't. you can be a good guy and still never even listen to the gospel. the message of the gospel gives a gift of grace that empowers a person.

the scriptures in the bible were written by people that were eye witnesses to jesus.

the new testament was written by matthew, mark, luke, john, paul, and peter the apostle, and john the apostle. these men were all eyewitnesses of Jesus and wrote their scriptures within their lifetime.

the only book that was written later, was written by james, some few hundred years later when the church was already falling away. it is a warning. also, possibly jude was written later, as well as hebrews, who has an unknown author.

there is one original message, and there is one interpretation. not everyone gets the interpretation right.

 

beleif and judgement are subjective. truth is objective. i can "believe" that there isn't a wall right infront of me. but i will still walk straight into it if i keep walking forward.

 

That, my friend, is blasphemy AND superiority.

High horse, long fall.

Good luck with that.

 

you can't nitpick the bible and pick out the parts you like and dump the rest. it's all or nothing. neither can you worship other gods.

why would that be the case? there is no credible proclamation of the gospel without the cross being the central message.

 

Yes you can. Priests do it all the time.

 

then they are wrong.

 

I like to dismiss some parts of the bible, I'm sure you take not everything literally either. So yes people can and will according to their belief/faith/conviction/whatever. It's better to 'belief' what you're told to in my opinion anyday.

 

i accept the whole bible as a single peice of literature. you can't pick out the parts you don't like. it is all part of the same message.

if you reject part if it, you reject it all.

 

I can, you can't (to be more precisely).

 

Sorry, I misread your post. It is not blasphemy.

But you imply that you know the one true interpretation of the bible and that is superiority.

 

not saying that i know the one true interpretation, just saying that there is one.

i'd be willing to admit that my interpretation is wrong, if someone could prove it to me.

 

luke 4: 46

exodus 20: 3

1 corinthians 10: 19-21

mark 7: 6-9