If Abbie Hoffman were alive today...

hey abbie still lives in our hearts!!!

 

Whateverz, I am THE ONLY hIPPY.

 

nice azzhole, but not hipp, just anuder nuttered shorthair, pussy whooped, vuked in duh ass jewboy.

 

Whether you agree with Abbie or not, he and many other counter-culture heros promoted many ideas which shaped the world we live in today.

 

Whateverz, vuk that fat vuk pie eater, I am the only Hip hipy.

 

Thank you Shameless, for removing those posts. we couldn't sit back & let a good friend get harrassed like that.

(we put our appreciation on this post to clear the vibe in here. )

 

Take a hint jailmate.. stay out of here.. I'll delete your every post.
SH

 

gee teacher did Ih say sunthin wrong.

 

It's cool Hippiestead.. He's outta here.. I'm sorry there are ones out there that have no cool, that just want to start trouble.
I don't know what else to do but delete their posts.
sh

 

don't start no shit and there will be no shit!!

 

& remember, Wavy says 'You aren't what you eat....you are what you don't shit out!'

 

man you got bulls?

 

Did I evah tell ya I ate breakfast with Wavy Gravy (Hugh Romney) and A.J.Weberman (the Dylanologist and Garbologist who got punched out by his subject) at a greasy spoon across from Tompkins Square in 1967? No? Well, A.J. was my friend (still is!) but Wavy didn't impress me a bit. He had the counter-culture con going just right: hell, he made a career out of it.


Remember what Peter Towmsend of WHO did to the nitwit at Woodstock.

All these legendary hippies that you mention, yes I knew them, they're quite tame-- I have to re-arrange their faces and pretend that they ain't lame.

 

There is nothing new under the sun...
All our leaders/elders have taken us as far as they could go. They themselves surcomed to their own human condition. Most everyone of them OD or took their own life someway.

When I got to the Haight in 66 it was dwindling down. Drugs had concured the minds of our spokepersons and they went to a place where Ego rains supreme. The men sucomed to the young girls with eye shinning in awe at the great leaders of Hippiedom. The lines of groupies throwing themselves at their feet in acid induced trances, mindless of what was happening to them.
13 year olds being passed around in inisciation(sp) to dope fucked to say no or even care. Our fearless leaders injecting heroin into virgin veins of the children robing them of their youth and innocents. While the women cleaned up the mess and raised the multiude of fatherless babies they were left to attend.
If the truth were known and you ask the women of that era most of them would have a different slant on just how cool and groovie it was to be left with broken promises and shattered dreams beliving the lies of men.
The temptation was too great. There were no presidence to follow, just make it up as you go.
Everyone laid them down with unlimited supplies of any and every drug imagainable, a durg smorgishborg to cloud their judgement and reasoning abilities.
They lost their souls to greed and lust. They became as corrupt as the ones we were fighting against. They were only human, not gods, they held no special powers nor did they invent revalution, it's been here since mankind became disgruntled over injustice.
I think the message is what is important and not the man hisself.
They were but flesh and bone as we all are. The mind is willing but the flesh is weak. I don't believe any one man/woman possecess unltimate knowledge on any given subject. I believe we find our strenght in Unity and Community.If it takes a village to raise a child, what would it take to raise a nation.
sh

 

Well,well said.Power corrupts,no matter who it is.

 

Mashuganah!

 

Cinnamon of the Hippiestead here. Reading over this post of Shameless Heifer's, a passage that I wrote in a fictional novel came to mind. In my book, one of the Pranksters is talking to a teen and the Prankster is telling it like it was:

"Looking back at the acid test days, I feel like we might have made some mistakes, sometimes things got out of hand. Then again, we were trying to push the boundries of reality." "Most of my generation was brought up to conform with society; girls were expected to become wives and mothers; men were the breadwinners and the rulers of the roost. It was hard to break away from those standards, even in the hip community. The guys expected us chicks to cook and clean, to care for the children. Lots of the time, stuff just didn't get done, we were too stoned to care. Luckily, at some point, most of us grew up a bit and got it together."

When the teen askes if there were a time machine would the Prankster change anything...the Prankster replies:

"Well, there isn't a time machine and even if there were, I wouldn't want to take a chance of changing anything. We unlocked the doors of cosmic consciousness in the sixties. Maybe the keys were rusty but they worked and a lot of good things came from opening those doors. The keys for your generation aren't as rusty; you just need to keep them polished for the next generation."

The conversation in my book goes on to talk about all the things that have grown from generations of flower children...enivironmental awareness, equality for all people, community interaction of all kinds.

Guess what I'm really trying to say is that while the 60's weren't all sunshine & roses, sooooo many good things have grown out of that era.

 

Like to drift in on occasion and see how the good people are doing. It helps ease my mind. There's always bad with the good. The essence of the time and era was pure and good. We were so close to that world that we could almost touch and breathe it in. It just wasn't truly it's time. It just was not yet to be. That seed got planted though and at some point and time when the time is right that seedling will break through and a mighty tree will grow. That train is acomin'.




Keep the Love.

 

Wow, what a beautiful way of putting it. You must be really cool.

All of you make very valid points. Well, I guess not everybody did, as someone got deleted.

I feel that there is always injustice, ingorance, ego, manipulation and power over by the powerful, just as there is always beauty, nurturing, discovery, and redemption. It is life.

The very valid point that Shameless made a while back in the thread referring to the way that women were sometimes victimized in a cultural sense is noteworthy. But even still, I think a lot of the advancement that has taken place in society since then is on the back of the sixties counter-culture.

Abbie Hoffman accused the goverbment of being exactly that which is has been exposed to be now. Partly evil, corrupt, corporate, militaristic, murderous, impersonal. He stood up to the dominant power paradigm and called out the bullshit in a way that garnered media attention.

I will always respect that. It makes me wanna stand up and yell...

Yippie!

 

Ah, Hippiestead---your term, a "fictional novel", is redundant.


Shameless heifer was for sure there... I've been saying the same goddamn thing for 37 years, but nobody wanted to hear it.

Vote Republican.