If a tree falls...

Discussion in 'Mind Games' started by trippy-dippy-drummer, Oct 19, 2012.

  1. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    I'm sure I would feel being absorped into another dimension or the touch of the ground when falling :p but if I would be a tree I would not hear myself cracking and smacking into the ground. So not everything has 'ears' on second thought. Everything (which has some kind of receptor anyway) can feel the vibrations of pressure waves but that's not always the same as hearing sound.
     
  2. tastyweat

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    Just because it's communicated in a different way, does not mean it could not be classed as hearing a sound.

    The definition of hearing is merely:
    It does not specify a means by which to hear that sound.

    Sound can be heard by many things.
     
  3. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Well, I personally do not classify the feeling of the bass on my limbs in front of big speakers to be hearing. That is the feeling of the vibrations of the sound alright but it is not hearing sound. Hearing to me is experiencing the sound in a specific way.
     
  4. puggybear

    puggybear stars may twinkle-but I shine!

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    Ok-s'posing you didn't hear anything even though it emanated waves of sound? If it actually crashed down,but the sound waves crossed into a parallel universe,where the light particles couldn't follow,causing you to hear a tree falling even though where YOU are it hasnt,meaning in some parallel universe a tree fell apparently silently.
    So if this IS 'primary universe' the falling tree would seem to make no sound.
    But if this is the parallel universe,you'll hear a falling tree where there isn't one!

    HA! Get out of THAT one,Asmo!

    [and help me with my rubber jacket....]
     
  5. celebrating

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    It is said a tree sung Seargent Pepper's Lonely Heart's Club Band,
    And then hit the floor as a final drum.
     
  6. pensfan13

    pensfan13 Senior Member

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    No tree has ever fallen without being seen. The ones that are down after placed there by god.
     
  7. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    You got to think to yourself that okay maybe while YOU aren't there to hear it fall, a fuck ton of animals and bugs were.

    Conclusion: yes.
     
  8. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Suppose something happened and I wasn't aware of it. Does that mean it didn't happen. Yes and that's really what it's like. Nothing is moving or doing anything unless I'm observing. The only way I discovered this is by turning around REALLY fast and seeing everyone and everything frozen in place, until after a split second they resumed moving around as ordered. When a odd looking pair of glasses showed up in my mailbox some years ago and I put them on and----------oops---no can do.
     
  9. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    Yeah but someone else would have taken a video of said thing happening. Therefore video footage proves the happening. ;)
     
  10. I'minmyunderwear

    I'minmyunderwear Newbie

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    they just get tired and lie down.
     
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  11. pensfan13

    pensfan13 Senior Member

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    Tomato potato
     
  12. Mattekat

    Mattekat Ice Queen of The North

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    Sound and hearing are different things though.
     
  13. I realize that a sound is a thing and hearing is a process. But shouldn't a sound that becomes a part of a process be distinguished from a sound that does not?
     
  14. Mattekat

    Mattekat Ice Queen of The North

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    Humans.... thinking everything revolves around them. Things are what they are even when humans aren't there to prove it.
     
  15. pensfan13

    pensfan13 Senior Member

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    Can you prove that?
     
  16. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    anarobic bacteria prove that. as would exiting an orbiting spacecraft without a pressure suit.
     
  17. Logan 5

    Logan 5 Confessed gynephile Lifetime Supporter

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    Free firewood.
     
  18. celebrating

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    When they are not there they leave video Robots!
     
  19. I think everything depends upon consciousness, but not just human consciousness. I think people want a static, certain universe because they think they can count on that, measure it, control it...and I think that is humans thinking everything revolves around them. As if the universe is just here to serve you like clockwork.
     
  20. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    the idea that a sound isn't a sound unless it is heard, is simply ego nonsense illogic.
    there's another problem. i don't think you're going to have a forest, without animate life forms as well as vegitative ones.
    a world on which no animate life form posseses the sense of hearing, would seem unlikely as well.
    so a forest with "no one" there to hear it, is astronomically unlikely anyway.

    well i don't believe it is logic to insist anything depends on consciousness at all.

    the idea that anything does, that's just a straw dog invented by fanatacism, to make excuses for itself.
     

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