If a lawyer and a politician were both drowning and you could only save one of them

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  1. scratcho

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    You identified yourself when you put environmentalists in parenthesis.Showing your age and political bent doesn't impress me.I have no respect for you.By the way,do you like apples?
     
  2. Littlefoot

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    Americans obviously don't care if hundreds of thousands of non-Americans
    are killed.

    Take a look at the Vietnam Memorial Wall. Milliions of Vietnamese killed
    and not one of them appears on the wall.

    The U.S. doesn't have any reputation to be "shot to fuck" except in its
    own eyes. We've been known as brutal imperialists since we stole this continent.
    How could it be otherwise? We've killed tens of millions of people
    around the world, directly and through the support we've given numerous
    despotic regimes. We've bombed the shit out of dozens of countries.

    And the Constitution has been shredded since we broke 200 treaties
    with the Native Americans.

    Treaties that are ratified by Congress and signed by the President become
    a part of the Constitution.

    Read some history. Doesn't matter what party has been in charge of the
    country. Nothing ever changes. Except the words.

    The Democrats have taken us to war more often than the Republicans.
    And now they are in charge of Congress. Have they ended the wars
    in Iraq and Afghnistan? Hardly.They are talking about invading Iran,
    now. On the first day they took control of
    Congress it was a Democrat who suggested reinstating the Draft.

    The Democrats and the Republicans are the left and right wing of
    the same ugly bird.

    They all agree that the American Dream must be maintained at any
    cost.

    And the American Dream consists of making sure that anyone can
    accumulate as much material wealth as they can get away with.

    Which brings us right down to the real problem: That's what most
    Americans want. If they didn't, they wouldn't elect politicians who
    pursued that goal.

    Quit pretending you aren't a part of the problem. No corporation could
    exist for a week without people buying its products. And if you are
    buying its products you are a part of it.

    Littlefoot

    "It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine." REM
     
  3. scratcho

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    yeah-you caught me.I didn't know any of that.ppffftt.
     
  4. Orsino2

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    Smoke a spliff and get the munchies.
     
  5. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Believe I will--thanks.
     
  6. Orsino2

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    Haha, you've always cracked me up.

    :D

    I think I'd save both. I'm better than that. They probably would do the same for me if I had the money. I don't need money for that, but I guess it would depend on the situation.
     
  7. scratcho

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    Thanks again--back 'atcha!
     
  8. Littlefoot

    Littlefoot Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    <shrug> Smoke a bowl and kick back. It's all Good.

    This country, the USA, is a totatilarian state. Like all totatitarian states
    it bills itself as The Greatest Countyry on the Planet and in History. And
    as a Free Country.

    If it actually was a free country and the greatest country that ever was, it
    wouldn't have to say that (over and over and over and over). It would be obvious.

    The propaganda machine controlled by the Money Party (with its two
    main factions, the Democrats and the Republicans) is staggering in
    its size and complexity. It controls the presses and the schools and
    the broadcast media.

    For instance: They have most of us believing that a bunch of crazed
    religions fanatics bent on destroying or converting the West attacked
    us for no other reason on September 11, 2001.

    Well let's see. Before that happenned the U.S. bombed Muslims in
    at least the following countries:

    Indonesia 1958
    Lebanon 1983, 1984
    Libya 1986
    Iran 1987
    Iraq 1991-2000
    Kuwait 1991
    Somalia 1993
    Sudan 1998
    Afghanistan 1998

    And they have supported Israel, which began by driving
    400,000+ Palestinians out of their homes and country.
    They have lived for about 60 years in refugee camps in
    Lebanon.

    The above only begins to document the rotten things we
    have done to the Muslims of the world.

    So to anyone with a functioning mind, vengeance would
    be a much more likely motive for the attack on the Trade
    Center and Pentagon. Well-deserved veangeance. And
    merely a token when compared to the destruction and
    mass murder we have rained on them.

    And the U.S. is currently OCCUPYING Iraq and Afghanistan
    and building schools everywhere.

    So the truth is that one of our numerous victims, all of whom
    have been weak and relatively undeveloped countries, finally
    hit us back.

    And it is quite obvious that they aren't trying to destroy our
    culture, but that we are trying to destroy theirs.

    This is all being done to prop up the American Dream. Oil is
    only a small part of it. Incredible amounts of money are being
    made, and will be made, developing those countries.

    New markets and new captive labor pools and new puppet
    governments going into debt to pay for the development, etc.

    Most of the Muslims in the Middle East live in the 16th century.
    Can't have that. We have so many people who want so much
    stuff....Got to turn them into good little mindless consumers
    and workers....

    The good news is that the Taliban currently controls over half
    of Afghanistan and the U.S. is obviously getting its ass kicked.

    I don't like the Taliban, but it IS their country, and I hope they
    drive the U.S. out of their with its tail between its criminal legs.

    And that the Muslims drive the stinking fascist Israelis out of
    the Middle East.

    This country is a nasty piece of work. And we all make it happen.

    LIttlefoot

    "It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine." REM
     
  9. billybongwater

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    i would save the politician for one reason, he will owe me a favor. and when the vote for the legalization of pot comes up i would call in that favor. and all would know that i did my part for the cause.
     
  10. makesmomcry420

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    ^wow telling it like it is!! im impressed with your courage. most ppl would be scared to say those comments for fear of being labeled anti-american (fuck this country) or even anti-semitic. but hey you know it bro
     
  11. crummyrummy

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    A lawyer dies and goes to Heaven. "There must be some mistake," the lawyer argues. "I’m too young to die. I’m only fifty five." "Fifty five?" says Saint Peter. "No, according to out calculations, you’re eighty two." "How’s you get that?" the lawyer asks. Answers St. Peter: "We added up your time sheets."
     
  12. Littlefoot

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    Thanks.

    I am an Earthling. I care about the Earth, which means that I care about
    people because we are a part of the Earth.

    I couldn't care less about artificial structures like nations.

    I make my mother cry, too. :) She's a real American Asshole. Calls
    herself a Christian and has no problem with her uniformed terrorists
    committing mass murder and destruction around the world.

    Although it is quite obvious to anyone who has read the gospels
    that Jesus would have a serious problem with that.

    She tried to force me to enlist in the army and go to Vietnam. I told
    her to go herself. Then they tried to draft me and she thought she
    had won.

    So I told her to stick her bible and her constitution and her flag
    up her ass and vanished into the hills and lived on a commune.

    Littlefoot

    "The greatest fine art of the future will be the making of a
    comfortable living from a small piece of land."

    -- Abraham Lincoln
     
  13. scratcho

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    Alright,I see where you're coming from.Respect remark retracted.You may misunderstand me,tho.
     
  14. Whiskers123

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    *bows to littlefoot*

    I am glad to see an American who admits the obvious. Well it would be obvious if your media didnt twist everything and the average person decided to think for themselves. I totally agree with about 90% of what you are saying in that post about Iraq and Israel.

    The Israel thing is one of the hardest topics. People have it in there brain Muslims = Bad. Jews = Good. They dont even bother looking into the details, the truth. Then when a person speaks out against Israel they get called racist, or Hitler, or anti-semetic. It really bothers me.

    I am Canadian, and yes your country pisses the world off. We are probably your closest ally yet we still get shit on by America. When they talked about legalizing pot for example, your politicians started threatening us. Then it became one of the main arguments against legalization. Fear of America. We were told it would hurt trade relations. I dont give a shit about what America will do. Its our damn country. America cant harm us, we got your oil.

    Do people really hate lawyers and politicians that much? Esspecially politicians? I thought politicians were pretty well respected half the time. Some mess up hard, but many seam to be really trying to make this country a better place. Atleast here in Canada it looks that way. In America your top tier canidates are paid by big buisness.
     
  15. Littlefoot

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    Returns bow.

    Unfortunately, there is no escaping the fact that the media tells people what
    they want to hear. If they didn't the people would change channels.

    That's how the Jews try to suppress criticism. A sophomoric strategy.
    I don't criticize Isrealis because they are Jews. I criticize them because
    they are criminals.

    Oh oh. You are neglecting a few facts: Most Canadians live right next to
    the border and if we quit trading with you and quit letting you work in
    America, you'd have a Depression on your
    hands. People would be starving in the streets.

    And our armed forces protect the interests of Candadian corporations all
    around the world. You don't have any military to speak of because you
    don't need one. We do your dirty work for you.

    People hate politicians and lawyers because they remind them of themselves.
    Of the lying and cheating they do all the time to "get ahead".

    All of your politicians are in the pockets of the multinationals too. Canada is
    a part of the global industrial-capitalist empire. There's no way that they
    could not be.

    You are proving yourself to be very American by buying your own bullshit.

    Littlefoot
     
  16. Whiskers123

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    Most Canadians do not work in America. I know you are our largest trading partner but the fact is you need us as much as we need you. We are each others number one trading partner. Imagine America without our oil? We are your number one supplier of oil. We are your number 1 supplier of natural resources. Do you really think America would close the border over Marijuana? It would hurt both of us, but China would love our Oil and resources so I am sure we could adjust eventually. Its a 2 way street we need to trade with each other.

    You are mistaken. Canada has a decent military for our size. Look at what we are doing in Afghanistan right now for example. Our military is fighting with the British and Americans while the rest of NATO takes a back seat. (Although I personally wish we would also take a back seat and do peacekeeping also) We may not be a superpower, but we do have a military. :p

    Explain in detail please. I mean specific politicians names would be nice, and how this theory works. I knew the last Premier of my province quiet well and do not believe he was in the pocket of multi nationalists.

    Also the way our politicians are elected is a lot different... But since you know there in the pockets of internationals you must know all about how Canadian politics work. I believe its possible that Prime Ministers and other politicians have been paid off, but in America big buisness practically chooses your presidental canidates. I just dont see how big buisness could have that much control here in Canada with the way our Party Leaders are chosen.
     
  17. Emily Anne 1

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    I would eat lunch.
     
  18. Littlefoot

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    I wrote:
    All of your politicians are in the pockets of the multinationals too. Canada is
    a part of the global industrial-capitalist empire.

    Whiskers123 wrote:
    Explain in detail please. I mean specific politicians names would be nice, and how this theory works. I knew the last Premier of my province quiet well and do not believe he was in the pocket of multi nationalists.

    Also the way our politicians are elected is a lot different... But since you know there in the pockets of internationals you must know all about how Canadian politics work. I believe its possible that Prime Ministers and other politicians have been paid off, but in America big buisness practically chooses your presidental canidates. I just dont see how big buisness could have that much control here in Canada with the way our Party Leaders are chosen.

    Me:
    Let's cut to the chase: It's a global economy. All participants are guilty of whatever
    it does. What politicians _say_ is irrelevant. They tell their constituents whatever
    they want to hear. That's their job.

    But nothing interferes with Business. Every member of this civilization is dependent
    upon the health of the multi-nationals, which provide everything they consume, directly
    or indirectly. Canadians living in the most remote areas of the Northwest Territories
    would die in short order if it weren't for the supplies that were delivered using vehicles
    that they couldn't create if their lives dependended on it.

    Your First Nations people in Nunavut hunt Caribou on snowmobiles with high-powered,
    scoped rifles.

    You are trashing your environment, for oil and pulpwood (but two examples) to pay for
    all the stuff you import.

    I don't give a damn what your politicians say. I care about what they do. And what they
    do isn't any different than what the American politicians do.

    If they tried to get in the way of the Multinationals (with anything but hot air) they'd be
    working at Canadian Tire in a week.

    Littlefoot
     
  19. Whiskers123

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    Thats what I thought...
     
  20. Littlefoot

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    :) You are a good sport.

    I love Canadians, actually. Been a CBC Radio 1 fan for years.
    (Since before there was more than one CBC Radio domestic service.)
    Especially, I love your women. They are so honestly loving and
    sensual and happy and such good company.

    I think your comedians are hilarious. And they do it without being
    mean and nasty like the Americans.

    "I have a same sex marriage. My wife and I have the same sex
    every Friday night at 10:00 P.M."

    LIttlefoot
     

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