I start training for Iraq

I dont like how you paint your message in such firm black and white. The violence you use to pump up someone about your message is not admirable.

 

Iraq didn't start the war - we did

 

Violence.

Of course I dont think wishing anyone dead is productive, its pretty much wasted energy...

 

Is "Shoot every suspecious Muslim you see, for he might be a terrorist" practical advice?

 

we were taught its better to shoot first, ask questions later

and people wonder why i declined my contract offer

 

Just the beginning? Fascinating. So Iraq and Afghanistan were just two pawns in this great game, insignificant. All those "Muslims" you shot there were just a little price to pay in the name of freedom... it's not like Muslims have souls anyhow, ehh?

Man, Cat fucken Stevens is a Muslim.

Think of that!

Allah Akhbar.

Convert heathen!

Yosuf Islam!

 

a war that is never winnable, and will bankrupt the US

the founding fathers would be ashamed of our foriegn policy.

 

I knew you were going to say that, heathen American.

 

The war is won yet people are still dying. What an odd conclusion.

 

before we were talking about Iraq, then you brought up the point that it was only a starting point to the war...

so no, the war has not been won. were still fighting on a daily basis. my friends are still being shipped or getting trained to be sent over. a friend is going back for his 3rd tour since graduating. so no, it is not over.

it is not beneficial to us. were wasting billions of dollars.

 

Destruction of Mecca? No Muslims in the Holy Land?

Man, I really hope that there truly is a huge conspiracy to do all of that... the world would be much more interesting then... something like a mix of Dr. Strangelove and a Bond movie


But man, go and watch "Harold and Maude". It will soften your heart, and make you truly appreciate the genius of Cat Stevens.

Yosuf Islam!

 

First you're going to have to kill John Connor.

 

You go and do all the heavy lifting you want man, it's all you man, it's allll you.

 

Well, I smoked a joint and watched my city's symphony play Stravinsky's "Firebird".

I think I've done enough world savin' for the day.

 

Hmm. I don't think that they care too much about impacting my life.

Actually, I doubt that they know that I exist.

 

Islam! Oh heathen religion! Let us destroy it in the name of the Jesus!

 

This thread just got a lot better, wheres the popcorn?

For Owls, on a serious note though I appreciate your calm rational debate. You should stick around.

 

well, i take pride in turning down the Army. one of the greatest decisions i have made so far in my life.

 

really? were you single? what rank were you?

b/c with what my husband gets paid, it could NEVER compensate for what he has to go thru over there. Yah sure when you go over there you get hazardous pay, combat pay, separation pay(if you're married) and it's all tax free, however, if you're married, that money seems like it's barely putting food on the table b/c of the spending that goes on between the spouses during the deployment. I honestly don't think that soldiers over there get paid enough for the shit they have to go through. Especially soldiers who have a family to support.

I know plenty of soldiers who don't want to be in this war but they are totally convinced that they HAVE to stay in to somebody, to make someone proud, to bring food to the table. While they do their job, they are HATING it. They still do it. I think there are other options than to join the military and be shipped off to Iraq.

I really wish that they did a reality series on "the behind scenes" of what really goes on in the Army. My husband NEVER goes to sick call, works his 48 hour shifts at the Iraqi Police station, does his job, keeps his mouth shut and doesn't get in trouble. The other day, he was running a fever, had the chills, couldn't swallow, could barely walk. he goes to sickcall, all they gave him were some sleeping pills. That is just an example of how they are treated out there. I have other stories but meh.
So, after you work your ass off for 48 hours, you barely get any sleep b/c of all the commotion going on around you, you finally get the courage to go to sickcall(b/c in the army if you go to sickcall you're considered a "pussy" or a shammer), you stand in line, you get seen, you tell them whats wrong with you, and then they send you back to your room with some sleeping pills. Not that I'm a doctor or anything, but how in the hell are sleeping pills gonna heal your body? especially with those symptoms?

Oops i kinda got off subject but not really. Point is, there is no amount of money that the government gives those soldiers that could make everything seem like it's worth it.

WE don't choose anything, the president chooses to keep us over there. we as americans don't have any say so in this war and we all know it's true by the way the president has handled things with this war.

 

how came I gave very similar survival advice and he felt he needed to reiterate it?

So IRAQ dropped those GBU's in baghdad?

damn, didn't know saddam has f-117's...

shit, I need to read through four pages of crap, and update this shit, but it's 5 ibb the god damn morning, and I do not have time for this shit

get some god damn objectivity people, I don't care where, just grab some, and use it, because, fuck, it's getting fucking stupid.