i think what we need to leave behind is the slash and burn mentality. the idea that what ever we screw up we can leave behind and start something else somewhere else and that somehow that magicly won't get screwed up by the baggage we refuse to leave behind when we do. but i also do, actually believe this is something that we CAN leave behind. by doing our thinking and diciplining ourselves accordingly. by remembering how to do something besides destroy, and putting a stop to the bacward headed nonsense of associating everything that refuses to kiss the ass of little green pieces of paper with lazyness, marxism, or some combination of the two. (yes it takes work to stop screwing things up. but not any more then we're already wasting to keep them that way) =^^= .../\...
The orginal poster has not posted since Nov of 06.......tell you anything of who took a walk on this. Not only the people who did not agree but the person who thought they had all the answers, until asked for a real plan. Another forum, another dollar. Mirrors and this thread should just be gone.
oh really? well yes, so much for the origeonal poster and the gloom and doomers, but i've offered a real plan, and one i don't claim to be unique or greatly dissimilar to what sensible people of many perspectives have suggested. should everything positive that HAS come up and been mentioned be thrown out because of the putative short commings of its motivating inspiration to be mentioned here? =^^= .../\...