I need help

Discussion in 'Astrology' started by stacy lulu, Aug 24, 2008.

  1. jrnyman

    jrnyman kermit

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    hey, enlil6, where's a good place to read up on stuff like that? the way you're aspecting stuff is beyond the stuff I'm familiar with and interests me.
     
  2. Enlil6

    Enlil6 Member

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    Here's your chart in the traditional style. Yours looks a bit funny because you have A LOT of planets in your first house. In fact all of them are there except your Sun and Moon (in the 2nd) and your Jupiter in the 6th.

    Whenever I point something unusual out like I just did, people always ask "is that bad?". Yes and no. Generally no it's not bad. A cluster in the 1st house shows someone who is very self-sufficient. A planet in an angular house, such as the 1st (there are four angular houses - 1st, 4th, 10th, and 7th) will act for good or ill.

    So in your case, because your chart ruler is Venus and is in your 1st house. Venus is a benefic planet, and even though it's relatively weak by sign, it's still good. This weakness will usually show up as you not being able to make up your mind, and being rather aimless in general. Your ruler being Venus is someone passionate about art and music and beauty. You like being around women - possibly more than men.


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    You won't be married young (i.e. before 30), or if you do, it will be twice and the 2nd one will be stronger.

    On a relationship level, I see two major relationships. One is represented by the Moon, and the other is Jupiter. Both seem generally positive, though the Lunar one seems weaker and overshadowed by financial matters - possibly even an inheritance or death of the partner's father since the Sun rules the 8th (death and inheritance) and is in the 2nd (finances). I'm leaning towards a money-related matter since the Sun and Moon are both in the 2nd. If this relationship ends, it will not be over a small matter.

    The Jupiter one you will meet at work - probably a co-worker (6th house). By the way, these two relationships will probably know each other somehow. This person will be in your circle of friends but there will be secrecy. Jupiter rules the 11th (friends) and the 12th (secrets and secret enemies). In addition you will feel trapped. Believe it or not, your Part of Fortune is in the 12th, so actually you're going to benefit from this.

    My gut is that Jupiter is the earlier relationship, and the Moon is the later one. This is based on my eyeballing some things. Actually both will be happy. I don't see any obvious signs of adultery, and actually you don't have any negative aspects regarding relationships at all. Any problems you have will be minor.

    Keep in mind this is a basic view. I'm not looking too closely or using any timing techniques which would show more detail.

    Hope that helps.
     
  3. Enlil6

    Enlil6 Member

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    I'm personally learning through two methods. The first is a translation of the 13th century "Book on Astronomy" by Bonatti. It's expensive - about $200.

    The other is a course I'm taking, but I don't think it's being offered anymore. I may start doing something myself eventually, maybe a book.

    An easier alternative is William Lilly's "Christian Astrology". Don't let the name scare you. There's no Christianity in it. It's a bit hard to read (written in the mid 1600s), and he tends to gloss over things, but it's easy to find and cheap.

    Sadly there aren't any books for beginners. I'll probably write one someday.

    I can discuss some techniques if you want. Marriage is funny though. Women's charts are pretty easy. Men's charts are harder to explain and require some explanation of some complicated (for a forum) concepts.

    Shit's hard man!

    Edit: I hope I'm not being cryptic. I'm not trying not to be. Traditional astrology isn't well represented today, so I felt around for about 2 years until I figured out what to do. Even then I found ONE person teaching it, and I don't think they will continue. There's also a political issue that I don't want to get into. Ugh.
     
  4. stacy lulu

    stacy lulu yeeeaah buddy

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    thats very interesting elil cause i got a reading one time that i will be married 2 times in my life because the first, i married too young. its an interesting read and im wondering how its gonna be played out. but id have to disagree on you with "more interested in women rather than men" cause I have very few girl-friends and lots of guy friends. but thank you for it and your time :)
     
  5. does2

    does2 Member

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    The truth shall set you free.

    :lurk5:
     
  6. Enlil6

    Enlil6 Member

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    No problem. Interestingly the comment I made about women was kind of me riffing based on your chart ruler being in your 1st house. Every time I guess and don't use an actual technique I'm wrong. Think I would've learned by now.
     
  7. stacy lulu

    stacy lulu yeeeaah buddy

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    nah its okay lol you did a great job
     
  8. does2

    does2 Member

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    astrology isn't the only thing...
    but who are you to undermine somebody else's happiness?
    however futile it may be... :eek:
     
  9. tomandhismuse

    tomandhismuse Banned

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    Edited For Fear Or Aggressive Reprisals
     
  10. stacy lulu

    stacy lulu yeeeaah buddy

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    uhh >_> you got the right thread tom?
     
  11. tomandhismuse

    tomandhismuse Banned

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    Yeah i wrote something nasty about does2 but was supposed to be pm him lol
     
  12. does2

    does2 Member

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    you rising star must conflict with mine, who knows :rolleyes:
     
  13. tomandhismuse

    tomandhismuse Banned

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    oh does i love you really
     
  14. does2

    does2 Member

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    i dont think i know who you are.... but what is your sign?
    you never know, we might be made for eachother...
     
  15. stacy lulu

    stacy lulu yeeeaah buddy

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    tom im sure you dont like does but leave the kiddie alone -_-
     
  16. tomandhismuse

    tomandhismuse Banned

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    im scorpio baby

    you?
     
  17. does2

    does2 Member

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    sagg here.
    we are compatible...
    but then again, i control my life, meaning, i dont rely on labels to build relationships with people... just looks!
    that may explain a lot ;)
     
  18. tomandhismuse

    tomandhismuse Banned

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    well as long as you dont like a potato baby we can go all night long, wanna join in stacy, i quite enjoy beastiality
     
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