i love the whinners!!!~

Discussion in 'The Whiners' started by indian~summer, Mar 27, 2007.

  1. Orsino2

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    Yeah, but I think the bible didn't mean it as literally as humanity takes it... people go too far to the extremities of creationism and evolution, whereas it wouldn't be illogical to say people weren't created to adapt and evolve as time goes by, on a loose level. That's very obvious. If we couldn't adapt or evolve like that, we wouldn't be capable of learning and algebra wouldn't work, yin and yang wouldn't really exist... Personally, I've been through so much shit, and things I don't even want to get into, in my life, that I feel there has to be a God, to have made it this far and witnessed a few things in my life that go along with it. I mean, who said God couldn't just be father/master... who seeded the mass we live on with interuniversal lifeform and force. It's sort of like the people who believed in spontanious generation, yet didn't understand that eggs couldn't be laid by flies and what have you. I mean, we didn't totally disprove that till the 1800s, but science can only go so far; people often use it to their own political agenda or try to disprove religion, without ever thinking in depth enough or researching the right combination of things to give it a chance.

    I also am not always sure if Mary was a literal virgin, either. There are alot of things that people are so feeble about, when they read religious or philosophical texts, moreso with religious texts. People don't consider all their options or think outside of the box. They don't realize that what you see in most religious texts around the world, no matter what religion, has been edited, had things added and removed, and it's obviously been twisted for political interest and demonized or turned into hyperboles. I think all of that is just ridiculous. I think all of that is why I love Hitchhiker's Guide To the Galaxy, so much, though Douglas Adams was an atheist. He had alot of obscure points. Personally, I don't limit my options and I made the personal choice of being a Progressive Southern Baptist Universalist (what a, historically, backwards ass combination.. and universalism came about to save the people destined for hitler's camps, Jewish or not) and I am personally a Christian. I've also had the notion that there really isn't a literal Hell, but I like to consider all my options.

    But that's just how I feel. I don't know if anyone else really sees it that way. I really don't see how it could be much else, otherwise, and that's about as basic as it gets. As far as the little specifics, I don't think that matters as much, so long as you do something with your life. I do feel it is a gift, but I'm plagued with a depression that'll try and make my consider otherwise, but I do feel I have been at God's mercy enough times in my life, wether on waterways/the ocean, or in my car accident, last November, battling mental issues. You have to earn it... you have to help yourself first. You have to be so downtrodden that you have nobody else to turn to, enough times. I just prefer to be as positive as I can about it. Sinners in the hands of a happy God, you know... haha, that's actually a book by the University of Tennessee, criticizing Sinners In the Hands Of An Angry God, and a study on Appalachian culture/Primitive Baptist Universalists.

    I'm not trying to preach anything, just... you know, shit happens, you gain a little more personal wisdom and your life changes in about a second. Personal feelings that I don't even feel should be shared on here, but I feel I'm in a very controlled environment right now.

    Reminds me of a song I wrote, though, that intertwined with personal relationships. I wrote it for the future, you know. I write songs for later, sometimes. I write songs to console me, but I never remember them or end up losing them over time. Sadly, I sold two of them, but the band did alot more than I ever have... yet, and just needed a couple ghost written to finish an album.
     
  2. spooner

    spooner is done.

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    the attitude i see most towards religion, even by the devout, isn't blind acceptance but rather apathy.
     
  3. indian~summer

    indian~summer yo ho & a bottle of yum

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    yeah i'd agree with her


    george, did you bring a towel?
    (i had to read hitch hikers guide in high school, read some of it..left it for weeks..and ended up just watching the old tv series of it the night before my project was due...that was prolly the best project i had to do in school though...i just brought in a towel :))
     
  4. Orsino2

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    A little of both, you know. It gets to me, sometimes.

    Alot of people seem so blase, and feeble about it all, if not that, you have the people who are extreme, the the people who are extremely blase/feeble, both, in many cases. Makes me not even like to talk about it, or even philosophy, for that matter. I do feel Buddhism is a philosophy and not a religion, and it really didn't work, historically, since there are castes wherever you go. I've never really had a problem with atheism or anything, being a religious person, though quite a progressive one, so long as they aren't the type that just don't care about anything. You have that on all sides, even with the religious devout, like you said. People really don't make that point enough and people tend to pick favorites as to what the religious majorities are in their country, while being inconsiderate of others. Everything has to be bigger, better, badder, and over-engineered in this world, and especially the country I live in, but I can't help but work with what I'm given. Religion is generally over-complicated by humanity, though I've had feelings that there is a religious gene.
     
  5. Orsino2

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    :D I often carry a towel in my car, just in case I ever break down...

    I always think of Towelie, when I hear that. :D

    Fourty-two is such a kickass number.
     
  6. indian~summer

    indian~summer yo ho & a bottle of yum

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    aw yeah i love towelie :D
    and thursday is so the worst day
     
  7. rhasta.penguin

    rhasta.penguin No more hippy...ugh

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    i have no worst day anymore. :D
     
  8. Orsino2

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    I can't do Mondays, I don't care where I am. :D
     
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