i love heroin

his very 1st post

on a mission i guess
probly wont make it even that far

 

Why in the world would you want to be so self destructive? Do you have no goals in life? If you are that much of a downer maybe exile is best for you, if oneness isn't your thing.

 

squirril tree, get drunk or baked. opiate widthrawl is a bitch and can kill you. if you dont get ur fix for whatever reason, first you get ancious then jittery then you feel pain everywhere, you go crazy and go shoot som1 or sumtin then you feel ike ur gonna fall down, then you die. its not a fun way to go, stop while you can and wait till ur 25, by then you may have won the lottery and not want to die and you will reret ur coice, jut give life another chance

 

Oh I see, well good on him then.

 

Actually, its extremely rare for opiate withdrawal to kill. It can only kill if the person has some other underlying physical condition that the withdrawal sends over the edge, but that said, it is almost impossible. I think you might be thinking of alcohol or benzo (xanax, valium) withdrawal, those can easily result in seizures and/or death. Opiate withdrawal results in flu-like symptoms....achiness, chills, restlessness, anxiety, depression, ranging in severity with how dependent one was.

When swim used to do Opiates, swim did alot of oxy for weeks straight at a time and, dont get me wrong withdrawals arent fun, but truly werent that bad. The chills were a major symptom, achiness (but not severe), and just a major feeling of blah and lack of motivation. Some restlessness and trouble sleeping for maybe 2 nights. That's really it. swim remember having some bad flu's when swim was a kid, and swim would take withdrawal over the flu any day, really. Now, if youre shooting up heroin all day or doing massive amounts of oxy for a long time, I'm sure sure it can be ALOT worse.

That said, the original poster of this thread who is shooting up Heroin SHOULD STOP. You will ruin your life.

 

TooCrisp-Thats a minor opiate withdrawl what most users call a chip on your shoulder nothing to bad its like having a cold for a day or two. Thats what fooled the shit out of me at first. The first few times I got sick from sniffing Herion and oc's I was like I can handle this what are people talking about its not so bad at all its like a cold for a few days. Well how wrong I was becasue I keep doing it and the withdrawls keep getting worse and worse until one day when I was real bad shooting Herion and OC's and I tried to stop using and that was the first time I was really dope sick and went threw horrible withdrawls I mean it was hell and sucks major balls. Fuck a cold it was like having a real bad flu with toins of anxiety but 1000 times worse, You can't sleep you can't stay awake, you feel like you are going to jump put of your skin, your mussles hurt and spasm so bad that you can't sit still and have to move,Its a shiity feeling one of the worst feelings I ever felt in my life and hope to never ever feel again.

 

k seriously i'm only curious. I have no interest in H or with entrusting myself with fuckin with my own veins. but what percentage of H users get really fucked up, like bonafide addicts, can't do anything but get high, only options are to keep using or be sick for a few months. I know of one guy on here that uses responsibly, but only after personal experience with the extremes.

i'm just wondering because it seems people can't even maintain themselves with a softer drug like e. it seems like its either none at all or reckless binge, which seems so unnecessary to me. so I think its not the nature of the drug, but rather the insecurity of the person and something they are escaping regularly.

also what gets u to the point where u want to put a needle in your arm? is it an easy choice or does it take thought? is there any justification in the mind for doing it? again im not contemplating H, just curious because I am obviously missing something.

 

I'm not endorsing heroin use for use the kid...but ShocBomb would the use of benzo's help with the withdrawals? It's the same idea that methadone works but it's less effective...right? or just too expensive still?

 

Sure Benzo's will they will help the terrable anxiety you get from withdrawl and the shaking and help you relax somewhat.But don't be fooled sure they will help but unless you eather kick or get opiates you are going to feel like shit I don't ccare how many benzo's you eat. But I would rather have benzo's then nothing to help my withdrawl and they help better then any other drug exsept what drug is obvious OPIATES.Also Like Toocrisp said above if you have not been using long and only using a low amount the withdrawl is not going to be that bad its just like the common coled, you get a runny nose,mussle aches, sore throat. A little anxiety etc, its when you do opiates for a long period of time every day and start using alot if when the withdrawls become real real bad. And every time you kick it gets worse and worse. And anothet thing Toocrisp pointed out shich is good, I don't care how high of a herion habbit or pill habbit you have you are not going to dir going threw the DT's, you might feel like you are going to die and you might even want to die but the withdrawl will not kill you.

 

smack probably aint the best thing to get hooked on.
you can get hooked on other things - it doesnt have to be a drug or a substance. Cunts kill themseves cos a shiela 'broke their heart' others get comftorable and hooked in a dead end grind.

Dont you fellas think reckon that if he enjoys it and wants to do it then who is anyone to say otherwise no matter what.

He can live to 75 and not have lived a single day in his life (Waking up hungover after having drinks and the time of his life on the weekend doesnt count); waking up everyday for school then maybe college then work getting his morning caffeine fix and getting through a pack a day until he finds a bird and gets married and can finnaly afford to buy a house and become a part of the community. all of this while struggling through the crippling effects of nicotine addiction and constantly coming down off caffiene. But he doesnt do drugs. No way. Drugs are for losers.

Thats a normal 'person'. A productive member of society.
Productive for who? Deffenintly not for himself.

I aint saying the working is stupid (we all need money) and I'm deffinately not saying that having a family is dumb. I work and have a daughter and wife.

Who knows, the feelings this dude (the smack using one) feels and the palces his mind goes may and probably never will be experienced by any of us 'open minded' individuals. THis dude doesnt care about phone bills, a new mirror for his truck, sunglasses, guitar strings etc... I say we are open minded becuase most of us here choof - guess thats got to be a step in the righ direction. Many others will never feel what we feel bcause of thier stubborn ignorance. Other havent been on a trip, others havent been spun for 6 days etc... I aint saying we are ignorant but i do understand where this bloke is coming from.

Who is really normal? The kid who is really enjoying himself till he might die an early death (if he does who knows - maybee hes full of shit and fuckign around) or the 75 year old man whose biggest achievement is his family (who has put him in a home)?

ripping cones till your 100 would be the best (who know u might live to 120 thanks to THC)

 

i'm almost 100 percent sure that you aren't.

 

its probably a troll

 

these kind of peopel deserve addiction, he has people telling him not to touch the shit, yet he still chooses to, 99% of drug abusers had no proper upbringing or parental figure i ntheir lives, which is why they become addicts. but the spoiled little brats who start using heroin and crack JUSt because they actually want to piss their elders off and intentionally do some off the wall stupid shit like this just because they think its cool and "against the grain", they deserve the shit. fuckin sadists.

but I must confess, I promise to God I feel so bad for your parents.