I have experienced life in the 4th Dimension

just because we see something does not make it reality. a blind man at birth will go his whole life not knowing what our reality looks like. a deaf man will never know how our reality sounds. but if everyone was deaf then that would be reality. if everyone was blind that would also be reality. and if this was so and one man could hear and another could see the people that could not would not be able to grasp the concept. try explaining something to someone who has never experienced it and to them it will seem impossible or unreal. just because you havent experienced something does not mean that it doesnt exist. for all we know drugs may be the gateway to another reality and whose to say that that isnt as much of a reality as the one i see now. reality is what we percieve and if our mind percieves something different is that not also reality? there are many other things and beings in the universe that have created things that we can never percieve and that is their reality. maybe they have a plant on their planet that when smoked they see our world and others will call them crazy only because they have not also percieved that reality. but just because something is uncommon or uncommonly noticed or unnoticable does not mean that it is not reality.

 

def, study of another perception is not fruitless, even though it must be done from a different perception. a lot can be gained from learning about what else there is, including a personal change of perception. and i don't find ego to be misleading if i don't want it to be. this is an all too common mistake made in the journey toward enlightenment. people spend ages trying to escape their egos, only to become all the more absorbed by them, no matter what sort of aesthetic quests they venture out on. the key to dealing with your ego is to embrace it and understand it, realizing it is what gives you your own unique "existence."

what you are saying is not an attack, but it is very patronizing. do you truly think that what you're saying is so cryptic? we have language for a reason, and though there are some who would never catch on to what you are expressing, there are also others who can relate. i understand the feeling, though, of not being understood. hence my fascination with linguistics.

it's important to remember that, in the realms of consciousness and the spiritual, we know very little. a closed mind is a cursed thing. being open and entertaining hundreds of notions is a beautiful thing; being closed off and set in one's opinions is ultimate failure in the quest for spiritual and self-knowledge.

 

maybe the 4th dimension is the absence of matter altogether and there is only light sound consciousness etc... and anything else that does not require matter. if u think im wrong let me know but it makes sense to me. i know u said you interacted in the 4dim but maybe your conscious self believed you were interacting with it, thus allowing you to realize things unable to be percieved by sight alone. i think it fits quite well to your explanation.

 

although sound is made of vibrations and u cant have vibrations without matter so maybe sound is percieved also and thoughts turn to music much more easily thus allowing the most beautiful music of all w/o having to write down how it sounds b/c it plays as u hear it. and maybe we can create the most beaytiful works of art for the same reason. ever have a really cool idea and try to draw it and it came out nothing like u imagined?

 

if my rantings are true then the 4dim must be the most beautiful place imaginable which is funny b/c it is imagined. maybe 4dim is heaven and heaven is whatever u want it to be. that would be heaven for me. not how other ppl make it but how i make it

 

No, like I said, the shit I did was practically unreal, but it DID happen.

 

It is pretty beautiful. Like I said, nothing in this world touches on the quality of what I've seen in the 4th.

 

You're right Zilla.

You're definitely right about knowing something about the other perception. I don't exactly explain myself well sometimes. I just meant that there is a lot of information loss once you get back to this perception.

And I never meant for that to be a static list, just something to read and think about because it might be helpful... I really don't mean to be patronizing, either. Sorry if I offended anyone. I just get frustrated with not being understood. I once heard someone say that self esteem issues comes from the inability to be heard, and I think that there is a lot of truth in that - I should just be patient.

Also, that's not what I mean by loss of ego. I really just meant the lose of the fake bits of yourself: the persona. Buddhist monks say pretty much the same thing as do about the path of enlightenment. That searching for it leads you away from it... at least the type of pursuit that I think you mean.

I'd like to consider myself open-minded, too.

If anyone thinks that I don't write clearly enough, let me know. I really try the best that I can, but sometimes it's difficult.

 

And I mean this very earnestly, thank you Zilla. That helped to clear my mind.

 

i just want to let u know that i understand u but in my 10th grade class the teacher would put a philosophical quote on the board and id usually b the first to go "oh ok" and everyone else would be like "huh?" and id have to end up explaining it to them until we went over it as a class and discussed its meaning. hes the guy that actually made me realize that i love philosophy and have for many years. not to get off topic but i tend to ramble. if you give me time ill eventually start talking about something that has no logical connection to the thing i was talking about before.

 

nah def, i figured we were on the same page. it's mainly semantics

what i mean by "the path toward enlightenment" is realizing your oneness ... looking at something and seeing everything, hearing all sounds in one sound ... looking at your reflection and seeing a million people looking back at you ... that state of mind ... and the ability to allow this state of mind to manifest itself eternally.

i definitely believe you are open-minded.
so don't worry, we all get frustrated.

 

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Definitely on the same page.

 

Quote:
"the key to dealing with your ego is to embrace it and understand it, realizing it is what gives you your own unique "existence."

Yes, embrace and understand and indeed, love it for the drama. It's always there. I've had a few problems in the last year with a few people and have been watching our egos at work, but just being aware of it allows me to deal with it internally and 'forgive the human condition' ... and hopefully, and carry on unburdened by these things. And always in dealing with daily problems in a more understanding and compassionate way and recognising ego and not fighting it all the time, i feel love. It's like the reward of awareness.

 

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well , i got to the border of dim4 today
and sure enough , someday had a sign
posted there


. Priv ut Pooperty.
. No Tree Pissing .

hmmm ... no dogs allowed ?

 

yes yes
the sooner you embrace your ego, the sooner you realize how easy life can be, for it is when you truly love yourself that you can truly love others and give everyone, including yourself, the compassion you all deserve.

 

looking at these words in the mirror ... the thought then seems to ask questions .


deserve all you - compassion -
the yourself including everyone
give

and others love truly
can you
that yourself love truly

you when is it

for be can life
easy

how realize you sooner
the ego

your embrace
you sooner the yes yes
.
.

 

Thats great. It kinda sais the same thing in the mirror. ... sounds like master Yoda

 

o' master yoda , bless'm yes yes .

one zilla vibe forward , one zilla vibe reversed - is two vibes .
we need to find and bind vibrations to get dim4 awareness -
we , as in the social vibe of music like a drum circle .
in a circle i'd have hope . it'd at least need one drummer who
knows pure music and will communicate the dim4 intention in
a pure musical , conversational way .

pure music is just music that really is language ,
like you could talk with birds in it or ask questions with it .

you know that a good music vibe can touch spirit vibrations
by which is felt a oneness of we
and one creation , too .
.

 

Musical vibrations can also cancel eachother out.

 

Only if you have narrow vision.

You can't destroy energy, but you can change it's form.

Hmmmm?


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