I got my DXM for the night

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Climbing Arms of Ivy, Nov 10, 2008.

  1. deviate

    deviate Senior Member

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    I'm not saying it can't be genetic, but most psychologists these days attribute a lot of things to a combination of genetics, environment, and experience. Anxious parents are more likely to be stressed and anxious about things in front of their children, which transfers anxious feelings and conditions them to be the same way.
     
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    Ocean Bionic Hero of the People

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  3. Face Eater

    Face Eater Banned

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    Shit yes, I agree. But still, it doesn't matter what I do, or what I learn about myself, I'm still anxious and will probably always be, but I deal with it and I get happy instead of drinking cough syrup.
     
  4. deviate

    deviate Senior Member

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    Well everyone deals with it differently, I know that I have been self destructive as fuck over both anxiety and depression in my life.

    And I don't agree you will always be anxious. It is something you can transcend, trust me.
     
  5. Bella Désordre

    Bella Désordre Charmed

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    You're right. Anxiety is almost always nurture related unless it is a symptom of another more genectically passed on mental illness.
     
  6. Bella Désordre

    Bella Désordre Charmed

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    How did you break out of your anxiety?
     
  7. deviate

    deviate Senior Member

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    Its not breaking out of it as much as becoming comfortable with it, and realizing anxiety is a normal emotion.

    A certain amount of anxiety is necessary to keep us motivated and alert, its just that if it becomes too little or too much anxiety, you will see a decrease in performance.

    I used to have high levels of anxiety and panic during childhood and adolescence. And looking back, it was always debilitating when I became consciously aware of the anxiety symptoms, then I would begin to spiral into panic.

    I avoided weed throughout high school since anytime I smoked it, I had a panic attack. Then during college I began to experiment with it more in controlled environments like my apartment. I still freaked out if I got really stoned, but what happened with those experiences is it actually taught me how to deal with the negative feelings in my own mind. Combine that with going through the psych program in school, and I just began to have a really good understanding of what was going on.

    Once I began to welcome anxiety with a rational mindset, I began to realize my mind was reacting to a normal feeling in a very negative way. Basically, you cannot fear anxiety, and you cannot try to suppress it through control. Everyone gets anxious, it is manageable and will pass just like any other emotion. It is just the conditioned thought patterns, reactions, and behaviors that come about as a result of anxiety which cause us problems.

    My spiritual use of ganja taught me that every tool we need for these types of conditions is in our own minds.

    How it started was the realization that the cause of weed-induced panic, was my mind trying to tell me that I need to work on something, even if I didn't consciously know what it was. Then this began to carry over into 'normal' consciousness.

    I hope that makes sense. I'm not able to articulate it right it feels like, and I am still trying to make sense of it all myself. But these days I rarely get anxious. If I even start to panic, I can easily reject that panic and totally avoid an attack. And if I feel anxious, I can keep it in perspective and use it as an opportunity to look deeper at whatever it is in my life that is making me anxious.
     
  8. deviate

    deviate Senior Member

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    My roommate at the time had this poster hanging up in our living room. I remember sitting there stoned and panicking, reading this over and over, and things just began to make sense.

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    I don't think smoking ganja is the only catalyst for people to get over their anxiety, and I'm under no impression that smoking would benefit everyone. But it certainly helped me in ways that no doctor prescribed anxiety pill could ever help.
     
  9. Bella Désordre

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    Did you ever find out what it was that you needed to work on?
    I love smoking weed and am right now, but I get the munchies so bad and hten I feel guilty for eating crap after taking such good care of my body all day.
    Then I also feel guilty for not being productive.
    I guess I just feel a lot of guilt. My mom's anxiety stems from guilt as well. I just don't knwow hat I feel guilty about. I mean it really can't be about eating cereal with mini marshmellows or not checking my myspace.
     
  10. Face Eater

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    Deviate, I pretty much went through a similar thing, except that the catalyst for me was a physical illness.

    I particularly agree with this bit.

    Although, after a lot of soul searching I am convinced beyond a doubt that there is some sort of genetically ingrained screw loose in my brain. I'm not saying its a horrible, crippling thing, I just find it does me more harm to think that i'm like everyone else.
     
  11. deviate

    deviate Senior Member

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    Well, I used to smoke weed all day long. Get up, hit the gravity bong 3 times, go to work or class, hit it at lunch, and then smoke throughout the evening. I also avoided herbs that gave me the munchies and stuck with haze and things like that.

    It also motivated me to clean or go exercise, so I don't know, maybe I just have had a totally different experience with smoking than most people.

    And it's interesting you mention guilt. A lot of my anxiety I believe was due to things that happened in my life in the past, that were out of my control. I would say the biggest thing to 'work on' when it comes to the roots of anxiety is acceptance. Both of yourself as a person, and your feelings, positive and negative. Also to accept the past for what it is, and to welcome the future. Embrace change.
     
  12. Bella Désordre

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    I had a psychiatrist that told me viruses stimulate (your adrenal glands?) and creates crazy anxiety even in mentally healthy people.
    My anxiety got the worst when I had mono. I was soooo skinny it was sick and took copious amounts of xanax and valium to cope.
     
  13. Bella Désordre

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    Exercise is the only thing that has ever worked for me. I used to run a half marathon every month from about 15 to 21 and ran the 3200 and cross country in high school and my freshman year of college. Everyone thought I was just super self-disciplined, but I was just so anxious and had horrible ADHD. It was the only way to get rid of it. I so wish I still enjoyed running.
     
  14. deviate

    deviate Senior Member

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    Well part of what Im talking about is having the realization that you arent like everyone else
    And being completely ok with that realization.
     
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  16. deviate

    deviate Senior Member

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    Definitely, if your adrenal glands are stimulated they are injecting cortisol and epinephrine (stress hormones) into your bloodstream. This causes a rapid heartbeat and increased respiration, then when you become consciously aware of these symptoms and fixate on them you begin to panic. The person may not even be mentally anxious until the symptoms are noticed, then they quickly fall into panic.

    After an initial panic attack like this, the person then typically associates symptoms of anxiety with the attack and basically thinks their way into more attacks over and over again. So anything that triggers the adrenal glands, or the fight or flight response, they develop a psychological aversion to. Then it becomes a disorder.

    I started to gain control over panic once I separated my mind from the physical symptoms. It was strange to feel my heart racing and body in panic mode, but have my mind calm and consciously aware of what my body was trying to do to my mind.
     
  17. toolmaggot

    toolmaggot Nuts Go Here.

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    Well it's not my fault you're a complete retard.

    Shit, son.
     
  18. deviate

    deviate Senior Member

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  19. Greengirl

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    why don`t u try weed instead? i bet its way chiller and inspirational than this shit junk u are taking! Maybe a beer or some wine ?! u really wanna be a fucking junkie ?
     
  20. opel diamond

    opel diamond burn out

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    doesnt weed mess with her anti anxiety meds? im sure ive read that about 20 times sumwhere? or r u not talkin to the OP and have i lost the whole thread of this thread. :)
     
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